By Dan Schroeder
Recently I happened to be at the Union Station visitor's information center and saw that they're giving out a free new booklet that promotes the city's outdoor recreation opportunities as well as selected restaurants, hotels, and other services. The 100-page booklet was created for the Ogden/Weber Convention and Visitors Bureau by a small local company, Out of Bounds Creative. It has terrific photography and terrific text. For instance, the introduction reads:
Don't come to Ogden expecting a typical mountain town.
This is the place that Al Capone said was too wild for his taste in the 1920s. And while we've replaced bootlegging, prostitution and gambling with skiing, climbing, kayaking and mountain biking, Ogden's soul will always be a bit rowdy.
If you want homogenized, we're probably not for you...
Anyhow, don't take my word for it--go down to Union Station and pick up a copy of this booklet. It's really good. Employers should give a copy to every employee they're trying to recruit to come here. WSU should send copies to out-of-state prospective students. Realtors should give the booklet to anyone who's looking at houses in Ogden. I certainly hope the mayor has sent a copy to every company he's trying to talk into relocating here.
Of course, being the negative guy that I am, I can't resist the temptation to make a comparison.
In many ways this booklet tries to tell the same story as the video that Producer Rupert Hitzig made in early 2006. Both tout Ogden's outdoor recreation opportunities, with notable mention of Ogden's historic downtown. The video is aimed more narrowly at companies that might consider relocating to Ogden, whereas the booklet is aimed at individual visitors and newcomers as well. But the basic message is intended to be the same.
The message that actually comes across, however, is quite different. For one thing, Hitzig's video has movie stars: the mayor, Curt Geiger, and Chris Peterson, with shorter appearances by Bob Geiger, Bill Wright, and a couple of downtown business owners. You get the impression that the real purpose of the video was to feed these guys' egos--and that they're giving you a lecture. The booklet, on the other hand, is written almost anonymously and reads as if it's coming as friendly advice from ordinary people like you. The result is that it's infinitely more inviting.
Hitzig's video is a sales pitch, full of obvious exaggerations that put you instantly on-guard. And much of what it says is deceptive, such as the claim that I-80 goes through Ogden and that Chris Peterson "will" build a gondola. The booklet is absolutely honest (though it contains a few inconsequential errors) and makes no promises about the future other than mentioning (very briefly) the FrontRunner's planned arrival in 2008, and the Salomon Center which was about to open when the booklet was published.
The video makes it clear that Ogden's "leaders" actually aren't all that happy with their city and are planning major changes--leaving viewers to wonder whether the city is really so great to begin with. The booklet is much more positive about Ogden, and shows readers that we love this place already.
Although most people won't notice this, I also find it significant that the video was produced by a southern California company, while the booklet was produced by a small local outfit.
Of course the booklet makes absolutely no mention of any gondola. But attentive readers will notice that it includes a couple of photos of beautiful spots that Peterson would ruin.
35 comments:
Dan:
Thanks for the heads up. Will pick one up soonest.
I recall about seven or so years ago when we were looking for places in the west to move to, considering several, visiting several, I found on a visit here an Ogden promotional booklet that had a page on historic 25th Street. The section opened, as I recall, with this statement: "Nobody ever went broke in the liquor business in Ogden." [Or very close to that.] Having heard so much [all hearsay] about how buttoned-up a place Utah was, I chuckled and read straight through the pamphlet, learning about the city's colorful past, interesting present and promising future. Looked like Ogden might in fact be a damned interesting place to move to [not to mention unbelievably affordable and with trails up into the Wasatch running from the city's streets]. Turned out to be so. Glad somebody in the city's promotion department understands the appeal and knows how to make it work.
Thanks again for the tip.
Thanks Dan,
I'll get one soon. Great video critique. The video was so sappy and corny with fireballs and a soaring soundtrack. I was simply embarrassed to show it to anyone. I was afraid they'd think Ogden was filled with airheads like all the players.
Dan:
Ironic, isn't it, that all of us stand accused of being CAVEs when in fact, we (in general) love Ogden, and want others to see what a great place it is.
I'm still working on a long-standing project to get family and friends to move out here.
Think of what a wonderful place this could be if we had a mercado or plaza mayor at 24th and Monroe; frequent streetcars running the downtown-to-McKay-Dee corridor; and a pedestrian mall stretching from Union Station, and turning north up Grant to the Junction.
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope one day the Mayor will join us, and Ogden can live as one.
The book was produced by mainly one person. Great job.
kudos,
Then I assume that person was Shane Osguthorpe of Out of Bounds Creative. But his name isn't even on it, and you have to look hard for the one brief mention of his company on page 69. The booklet has "www.ogden.travel" on every other page, but that site belongs to the CVB and doesn't tell you any more about the booklet itself.
Some of the same text has appeared in other promotional literature under Osguthorpe's name. Do you know whether he also took the photos?
Anyone who has something to advertise should definitely consider hiring these guys.
I'd be grateful if someone could summarize the arguments in favor of streetcar service between downtown and McKay-Dee. Are the #603 buses currently overcrowded or even full? Could streetcars remedy a service that currently is insufficient, or is it felt that only a streetcar can get a reluctant population onto public transportation?
No one favors public transportation more than I do, but I think I'm missing something here. If whatever the problem is could be solved by adding more buses, wouldn't that solution be infinitely more frugal?
Moroni,
I kind of agree with you.
The big difference is that the streetcar would create a transit infrastructure zone with less emphasis on parking and more on pedestrian activity. Of course the exact same thing could be created around a bus only route but a lot less sexy. In that context, though, busses can be loud and less aesthetic. I think the streetcar is the best option despite the extra cost over BRT. This is infrastructure. Sometimes the modern short attention span tends to disregard long term investment like transit infrastructure. They sure knew what they were doing when they constructed NYC subways. A hopelessly congested city could not afford to sit on it's hands and contemplate not investing in tunneling under the whole damn city.
Moroni, BTW I wasn't referring to your own attention span. Please take no offense. as I reread my post I thought there may be a chance.
Moroni:
Thanks for the question. I'm not the best person to answer it, but I will take a stab at it anyway.
The idea of a streetcar is to move from busses, which people (for whatever reason) tend to shy away from, towards a method of transit that can be used to anchor transit-oriented development.
The concept of transit-oriented development in my former home of Denver is explained here, on a webpage for RTD, the regional equivalent of UTA.
In Ogden's case, the idea would be to explicitly connect and showcase our three strong points:
1. The 25th St/Union Station/Junction area
2. Weber State University
3. McKay-Dee Hospital
In this view, subsequent developments (such as the plaza mayor I envisioned at 24th and Monroe) would spring up along the streetcar line. There is no evidence that a similar benefit would accrue with additional busses, or with a gondola.
For example, look at how many students drive the 36th Street corridor every morning and then (usually) mid-day going back. Imagine removing 10% of those students from their cars, and putting them on a streetcar from the multimodal center to WSU.
Then, WSU could attract students from Davis and Salt Lake Counties who would (instead of driving) ride the Frontrunner to the multimodal hub, and hop on a frequent streetcar to WSU.
That solution would not change the essential "commuter school" character of WSU, but rather, morph it into the use of public transit rather than automobiles.
One thing that really, really bugs me about the current administration is that there is no recognition of a university as part of community economic development. Our next mayor should work with WSU to capture the power of this economic engine. Many other cities have.
As the price of gas becomes prohibitive and/or the traffic congestion along the major Ogden corridors becomes unbearable, more and more will find a faster and cheaper alternative in taking Frontrunner and a streetcar.
Finally, busses are subject to many of the same traffic snarlups as automobiles.
You can't overestimate the psychological power of a train or streetcar whizzing by as traffic sits in gridlock.
I agree that over the short and medium term (<10 years), that increased numbers of 603 busses will be a solution. However, a leader with vision will look beyond that timeframe, because it will take almost that long to put any new mode of mass transit in place.
When I say I support a streetcar line, I'm thinking about Ogden in 2020. What we do between now and then is perhaps a separate issue.
Thanks, Monotreme, for the excellent and persuasive explanation.
Although TRAX doesn't call itself a streetcar, it doesn't seem too different from Ogden's streetcar, and we all know it's a whopping success for SLC.
Monotreme for Mayor!
Would I like to see TOD happen in Ogden? Very much. Would I use it? Early and often!
(And Tec, Buddy -- no offense taken!)
Hitzig and Leshem were both involved in the marketing video of which Schroeder writes above. True, both men are from California, but so what. They were "production," with the screenplay, story, etc. prepared by Ogden's Pinnacle Marketing with input from various Ogden businesses, including Ogden City. This may come as a shock to some, but there are some local heavy-weight business people who are indeed in favor of progress, including the gondola.
I do wonder why there has not been much talk about a gondola/bus system/streetcar system collaboration, something that will fulfill all aspects of public transportation, "sexy," public and student utility, recreation, relief of traffic congestion, trails, tree-hugging, tourism draw, econonmics, etc. Unfortunatel, it seems that lines have been drawn in the sand and God help anyone on either opposite side who dares to breech those line. Passion is at a fever pitch, with NO ROOM for compromise.
Is this due to personalities or clear and well thought out business, economic, and environmental concerns? Soon, most likely beginning with this year's election, a war of the signs will probably begin again. The "obstructionists" from SmartGrowth will be doing battle with those "debt-mongers" from Lift Ogden, and the only thing that will be accomplished will be noise and finger pointing.
It's too bad a group of rational thinking people, from both sides, can't get together, be civil with one another, and see if maybe there's a solution they could come up with that would do well by all. Until then, I'm afraid anything rational will be superceeded by emotion and most sensibility will have been ground to a halt.
Any review, even a bad one, is gratifying, so I am appreciative that you "gentle folk" took the time to view my little DVD that I did, pro bono, for your little City. Like all good directors, I came to your set, unbiased and clear, and looked around. I simply cast the three most intersting people I met as the principal players; The Mayor, Curt Geiger, and yes, Chris Peterson. Despite the fact that your literary critic, Tec Johnson so articulately stated "the video was so sappy and corny with fireballs and a soaring soundtrack. I was simply embarrassed to show it to anyone" it has beeneffective in attracting both new homeowners and businesses to visit and invest in your fair City. Wait till you see my next opus. On it I really "go to town". Sharon, Curm, Rudi, Mono, Tec, and Ozboy ... will you grant me an interview?
Mediator: I'll try to assume my most equitable, Curmudgeon-like tone in telling you that the principal reason so many WCForum gentle readers are anti-gondola is NOT that it seems preposterous on its face ... it's really that we sense innately that in all the puffery surrounding it, we are being lied to.
That, in a nutshell, sums up the Godfrey administration and all its hangers-on.
And the beat goes on ...
Well producer, you say pro bono? I have to throw the B.S. Flag higher than hell. I know that the City paid you for your little cheesey Police and Firefighter hiring campaign, yet you say it was pro bono. the admin says they paid. So who is the little fibber on the conflicting stories? Did you get paid for the ads, and while you are making the ads your little touch hole buddy on the ninth floor pad the price to cover his promo for the Gondola? One of you is not telling the truth.
Rupert:
I'm easily found. You won't have to look very far, because I work very hard for the betterment of my community.
If "The Mayor, Curt Geiger and yes, Chris Peterson" were the three most interesting Ogdenites you found, you weren't trying very hard.
For one thing, Chris Peterson lives in Sandy.
Moroni
Such wisdom!
I have wondered myself about this bus issue. From my experiences in big cities, it seems that is the way it goes. Busses get full, they add more busses, busses become pain in the collective ass and they build trolleys or subways. Ogden and SLC used to have just such a system up through the 40's. The rise of the car killed it, but the model is still there to reserect.
You also nailed it with the Godfrey question. Why or why does so many people feel like he is sleazy? Well, because he is!
I have long felt that if he were humble, sincere, open, honest, thrifty and ambitious he would have built all this stuff with a whole lot less drama, a whole lot more appreciation, and a hell of a lot more love of the people.
If he did not look upon every opponent of his ideas as the devil, or beneath him, or otherwise contemptable, then his opponents would be much more willing to listen to reasonable presentations of his ideas. Or, as my grandma used to say - "you can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar".
He is all about "vinegar" and arrogance and hubris and my way or the highway. Then he wonders why people don't like him and why they don't believe him after he has been caught in so many lies and manipulations.
I think his PR team is a reflection of his own ego. That is why the official city video is what it is, and the other piece referred to here is effective and well recieved. Something Tec can be proud to send to his pals. The city version, regardless of who made it, reflects the ego and message of the mayor.
As to Ruperts piece, well, I learned a long time ago after a number of years in related fields, to not criticize art. Even marketing art. The only real test of "artistic" qualities in commercial art is - does it increase sales. there for I will say after looking at the two pieces several months ago, yes, they probably would "increase sales" in relation to what they were made for and the audience they were directed toward.
We of course will never know how "good" they were because the mayor will keep any relevant data secret that the decicions of quality could be based on.
Oh, and Rupert, I liked your videos, call my agent.
Mediator:
Over a year ago, several people, including I think WCF's own Mercy L. and former Councilman Kent Jorgensen proposed a compromise [Jorgensen called it Option B], which a number of people who support SGO [myself among them] endorsed. I've touted Option B here several times.
It involves [the nickel tour] the city selling Mr. Peterson a small parcel, say five acres, at the head of 36th Street for a base station for his Malan's Basin gondola. He can then build it and develop Malan's Basin as a mini-ski resort or Alpine Village or whatever he would like, with his own funding. The city gets to keep the Mt. Ogden parklands [golf course and trail system] as is. That location, head of 36th Street, is already served by four buses an hour going between there and downtown in each direction. At the same time, the city would commit to building a streetcar line along the route recommended by the WFRC [downtown to Harrison on 23 or 24 or 25th Streets , along Harrison to WCU and McKay Dee.]
Peterson gets his base station and up mt. gondola, the city keeps it parklands and gets the recommended streetcar line instead of the flatland gondola which WFRC study did not recommend as an urban transit solution for Ogden.
There's your compromise. It's been out there for over a year. Many [but by no means all] SGO supporters I talk to think it an acceptable compromise. But the Mayor would have to pass on selling the park to his crony for a housing development and on his flatland gondola. [That would be his part of the compromise.] He's not been interested so far.
But I see from yesterday's SL trib article that the gondola is not one of his goals [he says] for his third term if he's re-elected, and he is no longer sure the gondola "makes sense" so he will continue to look at it to see if it does. And as Dan as noted, the pro-gondola propaganda has dropped from its prime slot on the city's home page to a much lower slot for the campaign season at least. I presume all that is a result of the polling he's done indicating that the gondola/parklands sale are not popular ideas and are likely to be campaign losers. So perhaps he's in a more compromising mood now. We shall see.
But, with all due respect, please don't try to convince me that SGO "types" are militantly opposed to all compromise, and willing to listen to no one but themselves, or locked into an unreasoning opposition to any and all proposals to accommodate and encourage sustainable growth in Ogden that will enhance [not diminish] the quality of life those of use who moved here came her to find. It is flat not true.
Happy, though, to see you joining the discussion.
K. Moulton Story Important For Ogden?
There is a brief K. Moulton story in this morning's SL Trib that might be of some importance for Ogden. It's way back among the girdle ads so folks may not have noticed it. Here's the link.
Here are the opening graphs:
The Utah Geological Survey will become a lot more picky about when it will help cities and counties assess possible geologic hazards under a new directive from its board.
Earlier this month, the board decided the UGS should not routinely review geologic and geotechnical reports given to cities and counties by developers' or builders' consultants.
"Their opinion was UGS was doing work that the public sector could do," said Rick Allis, the UGS director. The board decided the state's experts should be involved only in special circumstances.
The UGS has offered geologic expertise to local governments for years and usually does 30 to 40 reviews a year, Allis said Thursday. Geoffrey Bedell, chairman of the UGS board and a Kennecott engineer, said competition with the private sector was one factor. But so was the fact that the UGS needs to concentrate on big-picture studies for the entire state.
"If they are doing all these site reviews for subdivisions," Bedell said, "they are not going to have time to do these statewide studies."
Now I attended a Planning Commission Work Session on the Peterson/Godfrey administration's proposed revision of Ogden's Sensitive Area Overlay Ordinance. As I recall, Mr. Greg Montgomery of the planning staff, trying to ease concerns about the Peterson/Godfrey administration's wish to eliminate the current ban on construction in such zones on land sloped 30 degrees or more, told the PC that there was little to worry about, because proposals to build on such severely sloped land would require an engineering study first, attesting to geologic stability of the land involved, and those geologic studies would be reviewed by the Utah State geologist's office before construction could begin.
As I read Ms. Moulton's story above, the state is getting out of the business of certifying such studies involving geologic stability of proposed subdivisions. And so one of the chief assurances of the Peterson/Godfrey administration that development of steeply sloped land in the Sensitive Area Overlay Zone would be safely done seems to have disappeared. Or am I misreading something?
Did I mention that significant portions of the city park land Godfrey-crony Peterson wants the city to sell him at for a 400-600 unit housing development is sloped more than 30 degrees and lies within one of Ogden's Sensitive Area Overlay Zones? Oh, well, probably doesn't matter that I didn't mention it, since the Peterson/Godfrey administration insists the revision of the SAO Zone Ordinance and the proposed elimination of the 30% slope construction ban has nothing whatever to do with the "Peterson Proposal." Whatever that might be at the moment [Peterson isn't talking].
BTW, kudoes to KM and the editors of the SL Trib for recognizing the importance of the press release from the state geologist's office and doing a story on it.
Just because Godfrey has seemingly put the gondola on the "back burner" for this election, don't assume that it won't be still front and center on his agenda if he's re-elected. I re-call that shortly after is re-election in 2003, after having said nothing much if at all about the gondola during the campaign it became a top priority for him. When I e-mailed him and suggested that had he talked about his desire for selling off the golf course and building a gondola through the city during the campaign season he probably would not have been re-elected he responded that the idea was not his but rather something that was brought to him by some business leaders in town and he was merely presenting it to the city as is his job. As others have indicated his polling data probably suggests that the whole Peterson-proposal is not a winner for the upcoming election. But should he win, I'm sure it will be back in full force come 2008.
tk:
I have no doubt that you are right. He may run away from the Gondola and park sale to Peterson real estate scheme during the election, but he'll be back on message the morning after if he wins.
Yes, I do believe it was Shane who was responsible for the content of the promotion piece.
As far as the pictures, I'm not sure.
mediator,
I wasn't aware that Pinnacle Marketing was involved in the Hitzig video. They're not mentioned in the final credits, which I reproduce here in full:
Produced by Rupert Hitzig
Executive Producer Gadi Leshem
Footage and Editing Cordell Wolking
Music and Sound Derek Keith
With grateful appreciation to: The Mayor's Office, Descente, Chris Peterson, Timbermine Restaurant, The Hampton Inn, Powder Mountain Resort, Wolf Creek Resort, C. W. Imagery, DK Studios, and the People of Ogden
Copyright BizazzMedia 2006, All rights reserved
Whether or not Pinnacle was involved, however, it's clear that someone here in Ogden played a major role in determining the content. In fact, your comment begs the question of how much taxpayer money may have been spent on the video. Doesn't the city have a contract with Pinnacle? I don't have a problem with cities spending tax dollars on promotion, but they should make sure the content is accurate and not use it to promote a certain political agenda or a specific private venture.
In any case, I stand by my review of both the booklet and the video.
Rupert,
You are laffable. You said you'd treat me to a ride on the hang glider or whatever that contraption is...and then you dkipped town!
NOW you want an interview? Speaking only for myself, and possibly OzBoy, are you buying? Perhaps, with inducement, we stars can discuss your 'next' opus.
Call my agent and we'll do lunch sometime.
I produced the DVD Ogden ... "it's all within reach" for nothing, nada, niente, zilch. The pleasure was all mine because I loved, and I say loved the spirit of Ogden as I first saw it.
I didn't see division then, I didn't see hostility, I only saw the potential of a beautiful venue at the base of nature's gift, Mt. Ogden.
It was months after I delivered the DVD, pro bono, to the City that the Human Resources department of the City approached me about doing something to increase diversity in both the Police and Fire Departments. I didn't know till now that they were considered "cheesy", until the self appointed critic of this erudite blog chose to tell me so in such an intelligent fashion (see above.
Producer:
You referred to the self appointed critic of this... blog.
Aw, come on now. You're in the biz. You should know that everyone's a critic and everyone has a right to be. I plunk down my $5.50 for a movie, damn right I've got the right to be a critic. I plunk my half a buck down for the SE each day, damn right I'm fully qualified to critique its editorial policy, its reportage, its layout and the fact that it doesn't run "9 Chickweed Lane" on the comics page. And I spend ten minutes or whatever watching the promo film you made, that investment in time gives me, Dan and anyone else who watches it absolutely the right to be a critic.
Self-appointed critic? Hell, Rupert, every member of every audience of every film you've ever done is, and should be, a critic of what they're seeing. You're in the biz, man. You've got to know that.
Don't be so thin-skinned. You put your work out there for the public to see, you by that very act put it out there for the pubic to judge. So does every producer, every playwrite, every actor, every writer, every publisher --- and every blogposter. All the time.
"the base of nature's gift, Mount Ogden".
Well, now you're talkin' there, Rupert!
Without a gondola yet. See.. Even you, enamored of the mayor and all, can see that the real beauty in Ogden is at the base of Mt Ogden and 'the spirit' of our lovely town.
Now, you go tell tht to Hizzonah. Maybe he'll listen to a real reel producer of high class films, such as yourself.
BTW...are you skipping out on me AGAIN??? You silly yellow silk shirted tease, you.
I was there, Sharon, in the yellow shirt, the purple scarf and the baseball cap. A veritable image amongst the hordes. Not one blogger came to say hello, so I was extremely disappointed. You have my word ...you put the suit on, and the goggles, and get out there, on the machine with both feet off the ground, spread out like an eagle, arms wide, and I will pay for the introductory ride, but you also have to sign a release so that I can use the video I will shoot on You Tube.
Rupert, "the Producer:"
Yeah, the most charismatic, film-tastic characters you can find in OTown are: Curt THE SKI IS BEAUTIFUL BLUE Geiger, he of the God complex, the onion smell and the stench of lies which reach from here to the peak of Ben Lomond; Teeny, Small, Lying Little Matty Godfrey, king of the "THE GONDOLA will replace the railroad as OTown's savior until my silly phone poll indicated that it wasn't popular and that I have to ask THE SKI IS BEAUTIFUL BLUE if it'g OK to go potty; and Wayne Peterson, founder of the famed Squirrel Patrol, lardass late-in-life loser who wears ski vests and thinks he's hip and who's conned an entire GTrain into thinking he's going to save our town. Seriously, go away: Teeny Matty has no more money to pay you, you queen; Wayne is packing his bags; THE SKI IS BEAUTIFUL BLUE is in deep shit with his Japanese bosses. Shove your faux Hollywood, embarassing, queer-ass "It's All within Reach" where you like things.
I too, Rupert, see the possibilities of a beautiful venue at the base of Mt. Ogden. Not sure what that means in your mind. I am comfortable, as are some others on this blog, with the concept of a limited development at the base of Mt. Ogden. It is Chris Peterson's land, after all, and it seems to me, the scale of his plans are unattainable so why not scale down. Much more appropriate to the setting and to Ogden. First of all, the golf course IS NOT on the table. Second, the town gondola is a stupid idea for more reasons than than you know or would ever acknowledge because you have chosen to ignore reams of analysis and links posted right here repeatedly over the last year. Your camp has latched onto the gondola idea the way bush and his neocons latched onto the iraq invasion idea. And then you are too much of a constipated man to admit when you may be wrong about that particular component of the vision. I share the vision. I love Ogden. I'm invested plenty here. Just build the damn mountain end of the gondola and we'll go from there. Peterson wants this and that and the other thing. Come'on Rupert, even big wheel California developers don't attempt this kind of monstrosity. That is exactly why Peterson does not have a line of backers beating down his door. He is biting far more than he can chew and it has divided our community. It is time for him to put up or shut up and scale his project in stages that he and the community can swallow.
Back to venues, funny you should say that but Malan's basin would make a magnificent amphitheater for summer concerts. A tasteful small scale hiker, biker outpost in the summer for wilderness education. Of course it makes a great small ski area with access to extreme terrain that he could possibly guide into. Still snow conditions on that side are horrendous. Do you ski enough Rupert to understand snow conditions?
Now after all that, the town can focus on getting our federally funded streetcar system and everyone is happy. So what are you gonna do now. Scream and stomp out of the room because it is now you who won't compromise. There are compromises aplenty from the so called naysayers. You guys are stuck in cement.
Just saw the New England Journal of Medicine just described a new disorder more dangerous than restless leg syndrome. GOD...Gondola Obsession Disorder
I won't be giving any interviews, Rupert, as this thing is far to important for the city and has nothing to do with personalities. It has everything to do with paying attention to transit plans that are already in place in hundreds of cities across America and the economic engine they have created in it's wake. People love to get out of their cars and do stuff in a quiet pedestrian mall like corridar of nice homes, shops, offices, and restaurants. What the hell is not to like about that. A town gondola wil not in any form have the same effect. People who never bat an eye when the govt. wastes billions on the endless interstate squirm at the idea of 100 million for a transit infrastructure for our city. The cost of just a few miles of the Legacy highway would serve this city and encourage an increasing density for the future relieving suburban pressure on key national security interests...Our farmland.
Jason,
Now you've done it!
You've insulted the producer. And just when he was going to put film in the camera too!
Well, Ozboy and I and the other ingenues will have to take our talents and chances to the STAGE!
Rupert, 'tis no wonder my fellow bloggers didn't 'come up to you'...you hadn't mentioned anything about a purple scarf! Sheesh.
So, Rupert Ol Buddy, if you think Ogden is so great, why the hell don’t you live here?
Is it the fact that you are only trying to capitalize on a stupid Mayor and his little parade of followers AKA the Geiger’s?
Or is it that you cant pull yourself away from your crooked buddy in sunny California?
The pamphlet in question was produced by Out of Bounds Creative for the city, cvb and other entities with monies granted by the state office of travel and tourism. It is a fantastic piece and will be used extensively for marketing the city.
Fantastic:
Thanks for the info. Nice to see our tax dollars being well used.
The Ogden Adventure Guide was one of many promotional projects originated and facilitated by Shelleice Stokes former President of the Ogden CVB. The Ogden Adventure Guide project was her idea. She facilited the funding partnerships, applied for State co-op matching funds from the Utah Office of Tourism and because of her knowledge, skills and abilities, was able to secure the grant. This project is one of several she has spearheaded in Ogden and Weber County. She was the manager of the entire project including contracting with the Out of Bounds Creative team of Jodi, Shawn and Shane. The photos were primarily shot by Shawn. Two weeks before The Ogden Adventure Guide went to press they fired Shelleice. They said "they wanted to go another direction". ?
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