Well, the rumor's out in the open now, thanks to reporters at the Salt Lake Tribune and Standard-Examiner. A plan is indeed afoot to build a gated luxury residential "community," champion golf course, and gondola terminal, at the present site of the Mt. Ogden golf course. We are pressed for time this morning, so we won't indulge in our usual narcissistic micro-analysis. You can read the Kristen Moulton story here. We'll post the Scott Schwebke story, if the Standard-Examiner EVER gets its website's act together. For now, you'll have to refer to your-hard-copy edition, if you're interested in ace reporter Schwebke's latest magnum opus.
We'll open up the floor for discussion of these stories. Alternatively, feel free to treat this space as an open thread.
Update 3/11/06 9:55 a.m. MT: We at Weber County Forum are proud to offer yesterday's News Today! The Standard-Ex never got around to making yesterday's Scott Schwebke article on this topic available in downloadable form on its website, so we've finally found the time to key it in, the old-fashioned way. You can feast your eyes on ace reporter Schwebke's Friday investigative journalism master-work right here.
As an added bonus, Mr. Schwebke fleshes out the story a little more, with today's headline front page article.
And a final, final tidbit: Kip Van Dyke, the Mt. Ogden Golf Course "Pro" has suddenly resigned, the Std-Ex reports this morning. And Ogden City isn't planning to hire a replacement. Is this strangely-timed development merely a coincidence, or a subtle indication that certain Ogden City insiders aleady privately consider the Mt. Ogden Golf Course "privatization" to be "a done deal?"
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37 comments:
Wow! What a failure all of this is going to be. Who wants to be like Bountiful. All those jobs, all that tax revenue, all that high priced real estate development?
1) Drop the Rec Center
2) Run Chris Peterson out of town
3) Screw this Gondola Plan
4) Keep the Golf course as it is---publicly funded and subsided!
Keep WSU how it is--Tuition rates going up...basketball program failing...buildings with leaky ceilings...enrollment dropping!
5) Screw the unscrupulous Larry Miller!
6) Stop any Snowbasin Expansion!
7) Stop an hi-priced realestate development---residential or business!
8) Give us more buses!
9) Keep subsidizing the convention center!
10) Watch as one more block of historic homes gets eaten up by urban blight.
10) Rebuild the Marshal White Center!
11) Give us some Low Income Housing
12) Give us a discout grocery store and one more all-a-dollar!
13) Run Mayor Godfrey out of Office.
Lets get real here! Ogden's future revolves around our need to embrace our past. We need a railroad Museum and some Whore Houses!
Anon-
I think you are being very unfair here. We don't want the Rec Center to go away. We don't want Chris Peterson out of town. We don't want the Gondola plan stopped. We don't wan the Golf Course publicly subsidized. We don't want Weber State's enrollment to keep falling, tuition rates to keep climing, basketball program to keep losing, academic buildings to keep leaking. We want Snowbasin to be successful. We want nice real estate developments -both commercial and residential.
We want all of that. We just don't want it done by Mayor Godfrey. He's bad, bad, bad!
Anon -
Cum on! We really don't want all that. We want what Mike Vause wants! More of the same. It's nice here.
Yo Anonymous
It is quite apparent they didn't teach satire, or irony, or humor at the shool for little obedient sailors and their bell hops.
They also apparently don't get into the real world much either.
Anon -
Can't we just get a Gondoala, have a rubust business sector, have a thriving conference center, have a thriving University, have a thriving Golf Course, and have strong realestate development but not change anything?
If I could get beamed up to Snowbasin from the light rail station, fill the conference center without actually having to have people in town or find a way to entertain them, have a great University without attracting any students except those that graduate from Bonneville and Ogden high, charge hi prices for our Golf Course without having to have anyone park up on hte bench, and develop any property without losing any historic buildings---use any new space---annex any new land---or displace any low income residents, and insist that our elected officials communicate with one another.... I'd be all for it!
And so the push for this idiotic idea begins. I certainly hope more and more people are seeing the underhanded way this is getting pushed upon us. Private money or not, Peterson is needing Ogden land to do it, and I hope the City Council will fight this. Even though it looks like Safsten and Stephens hopefully aren't a lock for a yes vote, but based on the story, isn't it interesting that they are the first two quoted. Good job Jeske for standing up to not having a closed meeting for this issue.
One has to wonder why it is behind closed doors that this is being discussed. Usually, when you are trying hard to sell something that is obviously a BAD idea, you have to pound it into 1 or 2 people at a time, because it would be a disaster to try it in an open meeting with the public taking a stand. Stand strong Wicks and the rest of the council. Don't fall for what the Mayor is dishing.
There are other options to better Ogden, but taking away our public access foothills above Mt. Ogden GC and replacing it with a gated community is ridiculous.
And Yes, Anon, Bountiful is an Ugly city with all its growth up on the mountain. Don’t make Ogden be a clone of those other cities. What makes Ogden stand out is that it has a beautiful trails system, one of a kind along the Wasatch Front. Why turn it into a Gated Community where only the privileged can play.
By the way, the Malan’s Basin project that Peterson is wanting to do? What about Sewer, Water, Power, Fire/police truck access roads and those other fun things that involve a project like that? Private or not, those issues make it become a public matter.
Frank -
It's true, being effective at satire isn't considered a virtue in all schools of higher learning. However, to assume that perfect execution of satire is my purpose here is a poor assumption!
fernald -
You are right. That is the first thing that people outside of Ogden reference about their understanding of our community. They say..."Wow, isn't that the place with the beautiful foothills and hiking trails!" No....that's not what they say..."I heard this place was the arm-pit of Utah! I didn't know it was here!"
Fernald -
The push is going to be much stronger than you ever imagined!
My my my, it looks like some of the children have missed their naps and are a little cranky this afternoon.
If we can move past the various anons. playing the perennial right-wing game of announcing what their opponents really believe [which list usually only marginally if at all accurately describes the opposition's goals], and then knocking down the just erected straw-men, perhaps we can begin discussing the wisdom [or lack thereof] of the plans reported today in the SL Trib and SE.
It is worth noting off the top that so far, this plan that is supposedly so beneficial to the City of Ogden exists as yet only as news reports of private meetings between the mayor and Ogden's wealthier citizens. Those behind it have chosen to skulk around behind closed doors and in the dark. One cannot help but wonder why.
Second, I notice from the reports that Mr. Peterson is promising that his gondola will, someday, somehow, be extended over the mountain to Snow Basin. Since Snow Basin management has said they are not interested, one wonders how Mr. Peterson can make such a guarantee. Or if he can.
Third: the sale of a public park to enrich private real estate developers seems to me very dicey public policy, particularly since the sale will cut off a great deal of public access to the bench trails now running along the golf course [on land Mr. Peterson wants to use to build expensive chalets in a gated community open only to resident homeowners] through Mt. Ogden Park. I have a dog in this fight. One of the reasons I retired to Ogden and bought a home where I did is because it was within walking distance of Mt. Ogden Park and all its facilities. I can imagine the new appeal realtors will make now: "You too can live within walking distance of an exclusive gated community to which you will not be admitted." Sure winner, that is. But I guess so long as Mr. Peterson and the Mayor and his cronies come out wealthier from all of this, we ordinary folk not wealthy enough to have been in on the private briefings should just tug our forelocks and acquiesce.
Have to admit, I do not like, and have never liked, the idea of gated residential neighborhoods within a city. I can't think of a whole lot less conducive to building some sense of community than turning neighborhoods into fortified enclaves on the basis of class and wealth. And selling public land in the magnificant Ogden foothills to do it strikes me as a very bad idea.
Just out of curiosity, does the Ogden plan of government provide for recall of elected city officials? Does anyone know?
Some interesting talk making the rounds.
Is Stuart Reid really going to file for office to take on Weber County's Senator Thomas so he can push Godfrey's programs?
It seems that Holding is Peterson's ex-father-in-law. One of Holding's son-in-laws is supposed to have tapped the family till. Is this the reason it is all ex's?
For all any of us common folks knows this could actually be a good idea!
If in fact it is, it could very well go down in flames given the secretetive nature it is being dealt with.
Some folks hereabouts just don't seem to get what is really going on.
It is not about people not wanting this development or that project. Rather it is all about secret behind the door manipulations in order to capture public money's to fulfill one little ego driven man's visions!
If his vision's really have legs, then they would be able to stand up to public scrutiny. They would not have to be negotiated and decided in secret sessions.
It occurs to me that the only reason any of this should be secret, when it comes to our elected representatives, is if someone wants to line up the votes in front in order to hang the infastructure costs around the necks of the tax payers. If this were going to be a strickly private deal, then none of this secret meeting with the council two by two bull shit would be necessary.
If all of this were dealt with in an open and above board manner, there would be a whole lot less public heart burn, there would be a whole lot less public opposition.
It is the secret club house, secret handshake aspect of it all that is the problem, not these ideas and efforts to develope Ogden, some of which are actually pretty good.
It would be perfectly normal and acceptable to have the developers and fat cats of Ogden discuss this stuff in private amongst themselves. Where the evil part starts is when the mayor and his cronies start pulling the people's representatives into closed door meetings, in small groups to circumvent the open air laws, in order to lock in their votes so that when and if there is public meetings on the matter the thing will already have been decided. This is Godfrey's MO, it is how he has operated every since he has been in office, it stinks. The people of Ogden threw the old council out over this very same issue. It would be very sad it the new council somehow did not get that lesson.
A real sad possibility is that had this secret BS not been practiced so completely over the last several years, one or two of the Mayor's projects may actually have succeeded. As it is, there is not one single project that he has been the author of that has worked, NOT ONE, which is a very pathetic score card seeing that he, and the old rubber stamp council, has thrown tens of millions of our dollars at one scheme after another.
Had the public been consulted and listened to about the expendure of all of these millions, there very well could have been a different outcome on some of these turkeys.
how many times do i have to say it? if the gondola doesn't go to snowbasin, the whole plan is shot. chris peterson is waiting for earl holding to die. otherwise, it just doesn't pencil. who wants to move to ogden to play golf when you can move to florida to play golf. the skiing is the attraction, and that means snowbasin. that is what the whole thing hinges on. trust me.
If you are Earl Holding, Do you want to express your interest in the gondola and fight with the Sierra Club the whole time, and potentionally help finance a gondola that goes through all of O-town and half way up the mountain? Or, do you wait for the thing to get built half way up the mountain, and then expand it to the resort. Holding did not make his millions by being an idiot. Why not let the city deal with all the red tape. When its at his doorstep he would be crazy not to take it the rest of the way.
I know. At one time there was a robust railroad here. It's gone. What a flash in the pan idea that was. Ogden never should have been involved with that plan. It crossed thousands of miles of wildnerness, displaced entire tribes of people, killed millions of buffalo, moved troops to go die in wars and kill people. What a fluke. If we only had listened to the pleas of the Indians, we would have never gotten ourselves into this mess.
holding is intent on building up the east side of the mountain. golf course, condos, etc. that is mutually exclusive with the west side. we'll see which one wins out. but a gondola that doesn't go to snowbasin is not worth building.
Well, Anon. # 1...you have # 13 right: Run Godfrey out of office!
In fact, has anyone else heard the rumors about a RECALL of the little twerp?
Bless Jeske's heart. Maybe we should have her run for Mayor! A mayor with integrity, iron in her spine, and smarts! If she doesn't want the job, how about that kid from Clearfield who wants to be mayor? I mean, we're used to kids, aren't we? THIS one seems teachable.
Godfrey thinks of every nefarious angle, doesn't he? Not enough to have his very own lobbyist, Jolley, pimping for him at the Capitol, now he wants Stu Reid there too. One working the Senate with Jenkins, and Jolley at the House.
What a fertile brain Matty has...dung ho, Matty!
Let's work hard for Dave Thomas!
You don't fence off and gate an area to increase access. Shortly after the city sells the land access to the trails will be denied to everyone except those with the price to buy the million dollar homes. Otherwise, why build a fence around the development?
Good news from Ogden's West Side!!
Church reaches land deal with Ogden to allow expansion
By Kristen Moulton
The Salt Lake Tribune
OGDEN - The Episcopal Church of the Good Shepherd and Ogden have reached an agreement that will allow the church to build a second chapel next to its 130-year-old downtown church...
SL TRIB, 3/11/06
Kristen Moulton's article in the Trib about the church is soooo much better and enlightening than the one in the SE by Schwebke.
I'm sure it will be a lovely addition to that area, and the little park that is planned will be a welcome respite for many.
HER article on the Mt Ogden 'done deal' (?) quoted Jeske as not meeting with the mayor and WHY. Schwebke's, of course, did not.
Sharon,
Actually, Schwebke's article did refer to Jeske not meeting with the Mayor. Here is the direct quote. "Two council members, Amy Wicks and Dorrene Jeske, said they will not meet privately with Godfrey to discuss the proposal and believe any discussions should be conducted with the full council in a public work session.
Next time, try reading the full article...instead of just whats on the front page.
It is interesting that Glassman is quoted on the front page of the Standard as saying he is all for this golf course give away to the Mayor's buddy. This is before it has even been officially discussed or diliberated before the city council on which he sits, but after his private (secret) meeting with the mayor on this subject.
This is the same Glassman that ran a campaign decrying the secret meetings between the prior council and the mayor that decided all issues concerning the city.
This is the same Glassman that got elected by pointing out how corrupt these secret meetings between the council and the mayor were.
This is the same Glassman that got the support of the firefighters and police by promising to defend their interests, yet failed to stand up for them in defense of Chief Murray's bill to preserve the civil service commission.
Did the citizens of Ogden buy a pig in the poke - or what?
Did Glassman sell out to the mayor and the special interests of Ogden in his very first months in office - or what?
Is Glassman the phony that some of us knew from the old days - or what?
There is a solution to all of Ogden's problems and that is to continue doing what we have been doing for over 50 years that being wallowing in self pitty. Let's do nothing to progress, set us apart from the rest, or stop the decline of our community. We are experts at doing nothing because the minority few expect no more. Who in their right mind would want to step up and try to contribute in making things better. While we are at it lets gate more areas of the community where people care and sit by and watch the rest self destruct. What a great reality show it would be.
Wallowing in self pity?
Boy Anonymous, you sure have a perveted sense of reality. You sure have an inflated sense of your own importance! You continue to project this silly nonsense onto the citizens of Ogden in some bizarre attempt to justify these grandious schemes that you obviously think are the answer to some non existant problem!
I don't know anyone in Ogden that is wallowing in anything! We are not suffering from some collective inferiority complex like you keep implying. I don't know anyone that thinks the town needs some genius like you and the mayor to save it. You continue to paint this picture of total despair in your bush league attempt to justify the need for you and your ilk to ride to the rescue.
Why don't you get some help for this arrogant, self dillusional complex you suffer from? Ogden doesn't need you or your bush league pals to save it. Ogden was fine before you came, and it will be fine, and a hell of a lot better off, after you take a powder.
Maybe you can get the navy to give you your bell hop job back? Seems like that is what you are best qualified for. You sure as hell don't know what you are talking about in regard to this city. You and your nonsense are really becoming quite tedious.
Hey, you crude and rude Anonymous....read thru the whole article and please find the line about Jeske not meeting with the mayor. Today's article by SS mentions and quotes Safsten, Stephenson, and that Amy Wicks is still 'unsure'. Why hasn't she made up her mind to NOT meet with Godfrey?
She should be showing some steel in her spine and integrity. Dave that Knows is disgusted with Bill Glassman. I'm disappointed that he met with the mayor...I expected it of Safsten and Brandon, but I really thot the 3 new ones would stand for openness TOGETHER! Guess Jesse will be in the inner sanctum also. Pity.
Anon....read TODAY'S paper, eh? You too often sound like you just slimed over from the "Good in Ogden" site...or out of Godfrey's office?
Good lord, anon., this is getting old. You are still peddling the notion tht the only idea for Ogden's development is the gondola/gondola/private gated enclaves idea?
Jaysus, give it a rest. Once again, skip on over to www.smartgrowthogden.org for some ideas about encouraging good growth in Ogden that do not involve turning the city into fortified enclaves or running ski gondolas down the streets all day long.
This is a discussion over how Ogden can/should improve its environment as a pleasant safe place to live and work for its residents [first]. When the Godfrey/Geiger Lickspittle Contingent [of which I fear you are a charter member] continue braying that they are the only ones who have an idea, and all others are either brain dead or merely oppose everything, they betray I'm afraid the weakness of their own claims, and nothing more.
www.smartgrowthogden.com Go on over. Take notes.
Frank, Curmudgeon, Sharon
As a first time reader of the Weber County Forum and also leaving an anonymous comment for the first time little did I know that I would have the privilege of communicating with a psychic, soothsayer, and fortune teller. Obviously you are all so skewed in your thinking that just by how I wrote my comment that you know who I am, my political alignments, who I associate with, and my position regarding the Gondola just to name a few. I became so enthralled by your knee jerk reactions that I spent a little time exploring the WCF Archives to see what all the hubbub is about. I soon found your names scattered throughout many months of comments. One common thread in all of them is that you are an angry bunch and just a little Dien' Cai' Dau'. FYI, it just so happens that me and my anonymous brutha's and sistahs outnumber you. There are hundreds of us, that is unless someone just used my name in response to all of the various blogs since June of 2005. Whoever started the WCF should be congratulated! RudiZinc?? This could become addicting. I will have to take my laptop with me from now on to log in just to see how Frank, Sharon, Curmudgeon and the rest of the Carnac's who are repeatedly on the attack interpret the next anonymous posting. For future reference just so I won't be confused with just any anonymous participant, I will use the name of a cartoon character I drew for many years before returning to Ogden last September. Let's see if you can figure it out oh enlightened ones. This character that has been published for many years chewed tobacco and was famous for spittin' in the wind.
Signed,
"THE ANONYMOUS POSTER OF COMMENTS"
Oh I forgot, don't be mad, channell all that negativity into something good. There is a lot of work to be done. No seed time, no harvest. And Frank, THE NAVY ????? PLLLLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSE TELL ME YOU HAVE GREATER PSYCHIC POWERS THAN TO AFFILIATE ME WITH THE NAVY.
Permit me to remind the latest "anon" to post that several people have posted under the name "anon" and thus it can be, and often is, difficult to know exactly which "anon" a reply is addressed to. Or, for that matter, which "anon" is replying to someone else's post.
Anonymous
Based on your comment, my guess as to your cartoon character moniker is "Clueless George"
2nd choice would be "Goofy"
In any event you come across as pretty Mickey Mouse, which is quite normal for members of the Godfeyite movement.
Large ego's with small mind's is also a hallmark of the Godfeyite's. Your assumption of being the only "anonymous" on the blog seems to be an indication of your ego, and will assure you a place at the little lord's table.
Sharon...now who's being rude? I also don't recall my remarks being crude...just pointed. XOXO
I'm Spartagus!
I'm Spartagus!
I'm Spartugus!
I'm Anonymous!
I'm Anonymous!
I'm Anonymous!
I'm Anonymous!
There are hundreds of us out there! We believe that Ogden must take action to progress. We believe that the proposed action of a Gondola, a resort in Malan's Basin, a Rec Center, the river project, some movie theaters are all good! We believe that having a privat person own the golf course rather than the city continuing to be in the golf business at a $1 million/year loss is a good thing. We believe that it is time for change.
Silly folks. You can't fund a fire department when you don't have a tax base!
I'm Spartagus!
Well now Sparkadust, you appear to be pretty proud of who you are. Maybe you can clue the rest of us in to exactly who you are and what the significance of who you are is.
Are you Charlton Heston? Now that would be pretty impressive!
You say that there are "hundreds of you out there"
Well now, in case you weren't around or maybe not paying attention in November, there are tens of thousands of OGDEN VOTERS out there that rejected all this silly nonsense that the mayor and his followers are so doggedly promoting.
Most of us have no problem with PRIVATE enterprise building gondola's, resorts, Rec Centers and Movie theaters. We just don't think that the cost of em all should be extracted from our wallets, without our permission, especially by some one like Godfrey and his gang that have demonstrated time and again over the last six years that they are completely incompetent to pull anything off successfully.
Some of us don't particularly like the idea of the city subsidizing a golf course either. But then again there are literally thousands of folks who like to play cow pasture pool who disagree with us on that one.
My guess is that Peterson and Godfrey are going to find out big time how those folks feel about this golf course give away plan.
There are even people amongst us who don't think the city ought to be subsidizing play grounds, parks, swimming pools, rodeo grounds and grave yards. Are all of these next on the mayor's chopping block?
I think this angle of how much the golf course costs to maintain is just a straw dog created by the mayor to divert the public attention away from the real motive, which of course is somehow getting this stupid gondola financed.
Do you suppose that if Malan's basin gets a private resort built, and as the mayor plans, gets annexed into Ogden City, that you are going to like the many millions of dollars that will drain from Ogden's tax rolls as a consequence? It will sure be a hell of lot bigger drain on the folks of Ogden than that golf course is. Maybe all the displaced golfers will switch over to gondola riding?
Now if the little lord wanted to sell of the golf course and put the money in re-doing the sewer or water system I would pat the punk on the back. But you know Sparkadust, that don't exactly fit in his big time ego plan. There aint no glory in a working sewer system for him. Hell no, he want's a gondola through the town and up the mountain, plus a big ol resort on top looking down on all of us so that nobody ever forgets his name. Little prissy guys with Napoleon complexes think like that you know.
Like you, we all believe that it is time for a change. The change that most of us want however is to get rid of this little arrogant scum bag once and for all.
Oh, by the way silly Sparky, You can't have a good fire department when you have a mayor who is their enemy and wants the power to fire them on any ol whim he might have - like not supporting him in the election.
Why "Dave from the Old Days," I do believe that you're just a little bit jealous. And you really have no clue as to what you're talking about and how the system works.
It's back to another viewing of "Happy Days" for you.
Ozboy-
Don't let your ego get too far out infront of you. The past election may not have done much. You may find that the people you elected end up assuming the same viewpoints as the last group. I haven't seen any evidence that they are approaching things considerably differently.
"Friend," I agree. This "Dave" guy doesn't know much, if anything. I worked some on Glasmann's campaign and don't recall much ever being said about "secret meetings." I do remember much being said about the "gathering of information in order to make an informed vote." If those Mayorial meetings were really secret, then NOBODY would know ANYTHING about them. They were merely informational meetings one could elect to go to or not. Why not see what our Mayor is up to? The council's asked for that for some time now and here's their chance.
If good old "Dave" would have been at the Work Session that dealt with SB229, he would have found that Glasmann was a driving force in making a position statment that was sent to the Legislature and placed on the public record. The Civil Service situation was something that began 6 months ago, by the Administration, and was absolutely destined to wind up in the hands of local government, where it should be. Let's not be too hasty to judge until the City Council plays its hand.
And Glasmann selling out to the Mayor? Remember the Ernest thing? Hardly a sell-out "DAVE."
As for the "old days?" I remember 4000 people going to Glasmann's professional fight cards. I remember many tremendous rock and roll shows at the old Terrace Ballroom, the Orpheum Theater, the Salt Palace, the Capital Theater and Chris' Barn that he promoted. I remember several super hot Private Clubs, like The Court Room, Scandals, Cartoons, all responsible for great times and multitudes of people spending money downtown, that this guy built and entertained us in.
And oh yeah, he and his cohorts re-did Ogden High's Baseball Field, got its outside Scoreboard. After that, Glasmann procured a state of the art Basketball Scoreboard for the Tiger Gym. Still there today. Booster VP for 2 years and a big OHS athletic fund raiser.
So I don't mind saying, "DAVE," we know who the REAL phoney here is. What'd he do, toss you out of one of his clubs for being drunk and disorderly?
“Creating new jobs and increasing the number of tourists in Utah is vital to the economic viability of the state.”
This quote by Governor Jon Huntsman Jr. in setting the stage for the direction he wishes to take the State of Utah is indicative of excatly what Mayor Godfrey is trying to accomplish in Ogden. This should give you critics plenty to complain about in that our Mayor is in fact leading the State in these areas. While your at it you can bash Governor Huntsman because he avoids doing things the way they have always been done, is willing to go against the good old boys, is willing to make changes that aren't popular, has a small group he confides in, ignores the critics, sets a course and stays with it, etc.etc.etc. And on top of this he is a conservative Morman. With that said you are now turned loose to act like you always do that being rabbid dogs. I can hear it now. "Go back to the Good In Ogden where you belong. When are you nay sayers going to come up with just one idea to return Ogden to the prominence it once held?
Truth Justice & The American Way
Lord Godfrey couldn't hold Huntsman's jock strap!
Huntsman is an infinately successfull business man from a fabulously successfull family. He has been a winner in business, diplomacy and his church. Godfrey is no Huntsman my friend and to equate them only demonstrates your complete ignorance.
Godfrey is a re-treaded slum lord with dilusions of granduer! He has never been successfull at anything. He is a loser, plain and simple. He has been mayor for six and a half years and he does not have one single success to his name, in spite of blowing off tens of millions of tax payers dollars on one dumb assed scheme after another.
Godfrey is a sleazy behind closed doors operator who doles out public money to his equally incompetent buddies. The latest being the people's money he recently gave to his BYU buddies in Israel. Before that it was the $45,000 dollars he gave that loser Reid for absolutely nothing in return.
He is an embarrasment to decent society. He is arrogant, stupid and incompetent. A very bad combination to say the least.
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