Somebody suggested I open another Open Thread, which is a fine idea for a rainy Monday at the tail of the Memorial Day weekend. The floor's therefore open to discussion of any topic of your choosing. You can continue old discussions -- or start up new ones -- whatever the heck you like.
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I've been watching the statistics since I first fired up this place less than two weeks ago. There hasn't been a day within the last week when there were fewer than 99 visitors (it's been as high as 151.) This ain't half-bad for a brand-new local political site, especially one that only showed up on some of the major search engines just a couple of days ago. There are definitely people out there reading and listening, even though not too many of them have taken the next step, and begun to speak up. Maybe the cat's got their tongue; who knows?
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So I see you hurried up and took off my answer to "Socrates" and his demeaning little lecture to "Timmy". I'm sure you had to scurry a bit before he and the lord mayor could read it. We know you sure wouldn't want to expose them to the truth of their ineptness now don't we "Timmy" er I mean Rudi.
Your true colors are showing Rudi, and if this blog is going to be dedicated to protecting them and their ilk to what people really think of them, well - - - - you sure ain't a gonna hold a very intelligent dialogue here!
Guess I'll have to go back to the Standard Examiner's Forum. At least they are not so chicken shit as to exercise censorship by mid night deletions...
Check the archives section, ozboy...May 2005.
The blog software automatically moves it there, when it falls far enough down the article list. NOTHING ever gets deleted, though.
The Std-Ex "message board" format, which keeps the "stale" stuff under the readers's noses, "sucks," frankly, IMNSHO.
Rudizink....I guess you told ozboy a thing or two. I always enjoy it when some clown jumps to a conclussion before he knows the facts and then gets the real deal shoved right up his old, puckered up keezter-oo. You listening, ozboy?
Charles Trentleman wrote an exellent Memorial Day article in yesterday's Standard Examiner. Entitled "Deserved Honors," it told of the volunteer military guard which helps bury top of Utah veterans. It reported about these dedicated old-timers' strongly-felt attitudes toward Duty, Honor and Service to Country; and included a few combat experience vignettes, as well. It was an excellent article, all-in-all, and just another example of Charles Trentleman's superior and humanist journalistic style. If you happened to miss the article, this is where you can find it: http://www.standard.net/standard/51954/
There was another article that didn't appear yesterday in the Standard. It's also a fitting Memorial Day piece, with a message not only for this Memorial Day, but for those to be observed in the future. Open this link for another Memorial Day message
While I agree with most everything "OzBoy" writes about the city government, and I expecially liked his rebuttat of the piece by "Socrates", I fear that he is to strong and outspoken in his style. He will only put "Socrates" in a corner and make him defensive. This approach will not educate Socrates or the city administration. It will only harden them in their mistaken positions and make them even more determined to spend our tax money on these questionable projects. They are after all honorable people who are doing what they think is right. I personally think they are wrong in what they are doing, but the people did elect them and the time to complain is on election day.
I also liked the Trendleman piece on the old patriots who go out on a daily basis and represent our military and government at the funerals of the old soldiers who are dying off at such a large rate. It is sad that the military is so tangled up with this Irag mess and cannot send regular military honor guards to the services for these gallant old soldiers.
So to "OzBoy" I say even though you are not likely to change any minds at city hall, please keep giving them heck as it is pretty entertaining and educational to read your stuff.
To "Socrates" I say maybe you ought to educate yourself a little better before you expound on these fairly complicated financial affairs that the city administration is getting us all into. You could save yourself some embarrassment in the future.
And to those old soldiers and the patriots that honor them I say a heartfelt thank you.
OK. I'll take up your challenge.
#1. I'm a Comcast Digital Cable Subscriber, and there's something that's really been bugging me. I watch all the Discovery Channels, and one of my favorites was Discovery "Wings." I've been involved in civil aviation for a number of years, and it was a great channel to watch for documentaries and series covering everything from home built aircraft to space exploration. Last month Comcast cancelled this great channel and substituted a channel called The Military Channel. This channel is pure crap. All its programs are geared to hyping the U.S. Military. Is it just me, or is this programming change part of a corporate effort to glorify war in the minds of the American people?
#2. Has anybody driven up 20th street above Monroe Blvd. in the last few days? The geniuses in the Ogden City Streets Department have left a giant trench, 5" deep, and about 3' wide, running due north across the whole street. There's no warning sign at all, except for a little orange cone in the middle of the street. I travelled down 20th street this morning, to lay some flowers at the City Cemetary. By the time I spotted the cone I was already in the trench, and the impact knocked something loose in my front end. My car's been pulling hard left ever since, so something is obviously broken.
What is wrong with the Ogden City government that they allow a situation like this to exist on a holiday when much traffic will be headed to the cemetary? It seems to me that our City officials are a pack of idiots, every one of whom should be removed from office the next time there's a city election. All we hear about is the big projects downtown while the city streets are a dangerous mess.
I'm going to have to take my car into my mechanic to get the front end checked out, which is really a pain in the butt.
Does anybody know what City department handles claims of this type?
Is there anybody here who's had an experience like this? I can see this situation is going to cost me a lot of unnecessary time and money, and I'd appreciate any advice that anybody here can offer.
Notice to Readers: I just added a link to Ogden City's home page sidebar this morning, and explored around the site a little bit. It's a well-designed site, with lots of good information. It's easy to navigate, and I believe the site designers deserve a "tip of the hat" for their excellent product. If you'd like to prowl around the site yourelf, you can find the link on the sidebar at the right of the WC Forum front page.
Notable among the many excellent pages is a City Council page, where listeners who'd like to listen to a sound file from any recent City Council session during the past few months can do so, by selecting the appropriate link. I checked it out over a broad-band connection and found the recording quality to be top-notch. I haven't yet tried it on a non-broadband connection, however. If you're interested in assessing the performance of our City Council, this could be an excellent resource.
These files are arranged by date, right here.
Hats off to Ogden City's IP staff for this superb resource!
I'm hoping you got some photos of that trench on twentieth street, Ticked In Ogden, before they fixed it today.
Problems with City Streets?
What problems?
There's an election coming up in November. I'm a native Ogdenite, and I've been hering stories that our whole city councel is made up of carpetbaggers from other places.
Does anybody know the original origins of the weirdos who now sit on the counsel? They don't seem to think like Ogden people, for sure. They don't seem to understand Ogden's unique culture.
I have a little problem with the Odgen Ctiy government's uptight nanny style yard trimming obsession.
I haven't got written up yet, but I've heard stories about tickets being written because you have June Grass growing up next to our fences.
What is this?
Ogden?
Or the Pebble Creek Homeowners Association?
I can answer your question for one of the Council members.
I was born in 1974 at the old St. Benedict's Hospital. I lived in Ogden as an infant and Bountiful was my home for most of my childhood- but my mother's family is from Ogden (she graduated from the old Weber High School) and I would visit my grandparents in Ogden at least once per week. I moved to Colorado in 1993 and returned to Utah in 1996- lived in Park City for a year then decided I wanted to live in a place with a better sense of community, so I moved to Ogden in 1997. Although I was not exactly raised in Ogden, I participated in many youth activities through the Church of the Good Shepherd and spent a great deal of time in Ogden before deciding I wanted to make this unique, diverse and beautiful area my home.
So now you know the original origins of one of the weirdos who serves on the Ogden City Council.
Amy Wicks
Mark Shreeve said...
There's an election coming up in November. I'm a native Ogdenite, and I've been hering stories that our whole city councel is made up of carpetbaggers from other places.
Does anybody know the original origins of the weirdos who now sit on the counsel? They don't seem to think like Ogden people, for sure. They don't seem to understand Ogden's unique culture.
8:40 PM
Thanks for your comments, Amy; and welcome to our new community blog. This is a brand-new venue, but the web stats show we're adding new readers with every passing day.
I hope you'll check in often, and help us sort through the issues, and clear up the many questions that concern the people of Weber County and environs.
In reference to the entry by Council person Wicks, I say she and the Garcia guy are the only two rays of hope in the whole city government. The're both smart and have the people's best interest in mind with their votes. They both are real (non-phony) and have a heart for the real folks of our city. He's handsome and distinquished and she's hotter than a volcano! What more could we ask for in our city leaders? The only downside is that neither one of them is mayor - yet...
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