Saturday, April 28, 2007

Something "Uncle Greg" Forgot to Mention

By Curmudgeon

I'd like to make reference to today's lead editorial in the SL Tribune.


Here are the opening 'graphs:

It seems obvious to most of us: Building homes on land that is prone to move is, to put it mildly, unwise.

But some developers who stand to make fortunes selling houses on hillsides that offer million-dollar views don't see it that way. Indeed, as long as the home stands still long enough for them to take the money and run, they don't seem to see any problem at all.

They do, however, object strenuously to government stepping in to put limits on where they can build. That's too bad. When public safety bumps up against private development rights, safety must come first.

The governor's task force on geologic hazards is moving in exactly the right direction toward reining in building on sensitive hillsides where homes are apt to be damaged by landslides. The group, comprising engineers, geologists and other scientists, has recommended a sensible course of action for the state, such as training local planners and raising standards for geotechnical engineers. It will also propose a model ordinance for cities and counties.
And from a little further down in the editorial:

Cities and counties need all the help they can get as they go up against deep-pocketed and politically influential Realtors and developers. Those groups are heavily represented in the Legislature and will, no doubt, do all they can to undercut efforts to curb the profit-first excesses of some land developers.

Having scientific support and state backing for a local ordinance to restrict development and require building practices that mitigate the risk of landslides may take some of the heat off local officials if they must go head-to-head with those developers who have made these regulatory measures necessary.

Gee, when Mr. Montgomery (Emerald City Planning Department Director AND Mayor Godfrey's uncle), speaking for the Administration, was trying to convince the Planning Commission to lift the ban on building on lands sloping more than 30% in Sensitive Area Overlay Zones, and when he appeared before the Council trying to convince it to ignore the recommendation of the PC that the ban not be lifted until a Benchlands Zone was first established, he warned that if the PC and Ogden didn't do as the administration wanted, the state legislature or the courts might do it for them, hinting darkly at pending legislation [which subsequently did not pass] and as yet unfiled and unargued law suits. But I don't recall him mentioning that there was a governor's task force on geologic hazards at work, drafting a model sloped-lands development ordinance for towns and cities, drafted not by developer-legislators but by geologists, construction engineers and other similar qualified folk.

Must have slipped his mind, I guess.

9 comments:

RudiZink said...

Seems to us that Uncle Greg has some 'splainin' to do.

Anonymous said...

Given the nefarious nature of these hurried actions, all having some connection one way or another to this proposterous red herring,(sky-ride land grab scam) the council may best serve their constituants by inposing a zoning moritorium with regards to any new zoning changes. This should be accompanied by a vote of no confidence in Mr. Montgomrey. THis moratorium should last through the year atleast,post munincipal elections, and preferably till the governor's study has been completed. This has been a very decietfull rush to get ahead of future possible prohibitions, with no regard for the safety and wellbeing of the people of Ogden City. Given that Montgomrey had to of known, Ellison, Godfrey,probably Safsten and Stevenson, this is an intentional strategy that reflects a total disregard for what would be in Ogden's best interests.

Anonymous said...

The April 26, 2007 Salt Lake City Weekly, page 16, has a very interesting article regarding LUDMA, the Land Use Development and Management Act passed by the 2005 legislature..

Conditional Love

Sounds like "Zoning be damned" may in order.

Anonymous said...

Well, Daddy Warbucks laid it all out for the Council. Of course, his presentation succeeded in obfuscation.

The Council didn't understand what Warbucks was pushing. His 'power'point' pix were very confusing. Half sentences that didn't convey any meaning at all.

Some of the Council asked questions that conveyed to the listeners that THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND Uncle Daddy Warbuck's 'points'.

So he succeeded in his nefarious goal. And then Godfrey jumped in to further the 'plan' along by assuring the Council that this needed to be passed NOW!

Always "NOW"....when will they catch on?

The more Godfrey and minions PUSH...the more they should back off.

If Pelosi, Reid and Murtha scream 'do it now!' Shouldn't that be a signal to their colleagues to 'slow down'?

I suggest all of you try to arrange your schedules to attend the CC meetings and see for yourselves how the administration can get into the faces of this Council and how the Council shrinks back and whimpers 'okay'.

See how they will NOT ask the pertinent questions and how they don't DEMAND answers.

It's frustrating and disheartening to watch them in acton.

No wimps should attend.

Anonymous said...

How many of Peterson's cronies in this city will jump at the chance to have a home 'up on the slopes'?

Those homes are built for the suckers who come from somewhere else and are enticed into enjoying the view!

Hope they'll like dropping into their neighbor's living rooms in the middle of the night, covered in mud.

Anonymous said...

"Must of slipped his mind, I guess"

Naw, come on now Curmudgeon quit mincing your words. It is called lying by omission. Just one of may ways to deceive. In fact the Godfreyites are total masters at all methods of deceit!

Anonymous said...

Mitt for president

Check it out

Anonymous said...

Can't you just imagine Romney as Prez and Hatch as Attorney General and it stands to reason that Romney would keep Leavitt on.

And of Course, our own Mayor Godfrey would take over Carl Rove's job.

Just when I thought that things couldn't get any worse it appears that they might.

OgdenLover said...

If the information I've been given is correct, the current law does not require that a developer/seller divulge anything about geological hazards to a prospective buyer, unless the buyer specifically asks about them. This puts the seller at a distinct advantage - how many people moving here from other parts of the country will think about landslides and earthquakes.

Want an example right here in Ogden? Go to the Rainbow Gardens parking lot. Look up the hillside above the entrance to the Birdsong Trail. Those houses perched on the edge of the cliff used to have nice big back yards.

Perhaps a good geological survey would have prevented building at that location. About the only recourse those homeowners have is to move their houses to other lots somewhere.

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