Godfrey henchman's trial date set for February 28, 2008
For those following the latest developments in Lift Ogden chairman Bob Geiger's pending criminal case, we link this morning's Salt Lake Tribune story, in which Kristen Moulton reports that the matter has been set for trial on February 28, on two misdemeanor criminal charges.
Update 1/10/08 2:57 p.m. MT: Sharp-eyed and most gentle reader Curmudgeon informs us in the below comments section that Ace reporter Schwebke has not been asleep at the wheel re this story (except during the past three months). Thanks to Curmudgeon, you can find Mr. Schwebke's story here.
Loved the Bernie Allen quote, wherein the famous local Godfreyite defense attorney reiterates the usual criminal defense attorney refrain: "All my clients are innocent; and all criminal charges are "silly."
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72 comments:
I notice the Standard hasn't reported a single word of this.
Keisha:
True, so far. But I also notice that the SL Trib has not printed word one about Ogden's writing off 6 million dollars plus in loans due from the RDA. If I have to pick one story to be informed about rather than the other, I pick the far more significant RDA loan story.
Of course, a good hometown paper would report both.
Mr. Geiger was quoted as saying:
"My integrity is worth more to me than two zip ties,"
I would think that if even a small part of what has been reported in the past about his hooliganism is true, then his integrity, such that it is, is probably worth just about two zip ties.
It seems that there are a lot of "integrity" issues with Mayor Godfrey and his team.
Godfrey and his band of followers all have about the same amount of integrity. zilch,naughta,zip tie.
OK, gang, we owe an apology to the SE I think. The Geiger trial story is in today's SE. Page 2B. It's by Scott Schwebke, and contains significantly more than the brief little SL Trib piece. The story can be found here.
Still waiting on the SL Trib for coverage of the 6 million RDA bond write-off. And waiting.... and waiting....
Sorry. Anonymous "handle" posts are banned here.
Try again.
Short-deck's hero, for whom he committed these piker acts of dishonorable Geigery, is not the subject of the following excerpt of a column written by John Saltas, all-time best Wasatch Front Greek, founder of City Weekly and Ute, but Lying Little Matty Gondola Godfrey could be (as could the onion-reeking Short-deck and THE SKI IS BEAUTIFUL BLUE themselves):
While I still had a semblance of a relationship with him, I’d talk to him about toning down his rhetoric, which begat the inevitable—he soon would inform me in no uncertain terms I didn’t know what I was talking about. I’d already seen what would happen next. People may point otherwise and grade the former mayor on many things, but from this corner, in the end, his style erased his substance. His style—besides being caustic—was comparably Bushian: If you weren’t with him, you were against him. If he determined you were against him, he became Rovian, making mean and ludicrous statements with teeth bared. He went after his “enemies” in a manner Cheneyian: nefariously and secretly while bunkering down with his closest supporters.
Jason,
Ah, so we're back to comparing our mayor to the former mayor of our larger neighbor to the south. Yes, as many have said before, the two have a great deal in common--and some crucial differences. At this point, the most important difference is that one had the good sense to step down after 8 years, and the other didn't.
How beauteous! Little Bobby messes with democracy in America, and he thinks it's all about the value of "string ties?"
It's no wonder this loose cannon got drummed out of the Corps.
Beloved Dan S.:
Very true. But Ross did swap a $50-$75 million chunk of Main Street for some weeds in Glendale, ala Lying Little Matty Gondola Godfrey shilling for Wayne Peterson and his famed Squirrel Patrol's theft of our lands at pennies on the dollar in order to obtain less than one-quarter the cost of a silly circus ride to nowhere.
Bobby shouldnt have to worry about the cost of the Zip Ties, I am pretty sure that the Mayor and RDA will help him and his Daddy out in the near future with some hefty compensations.
Godfrey wouldn't make a pimple on
Rocky's ass. As arrogant a prick as Rocky is, he is still not as bad as the little lord, and at least he is smart, savvy and aware that other people are smart also. This part is the bigger part of Godfrey's problem in my opinion. He might be smart, but he is not too savvy, and he operates under the premise that no body knows jack shit but him.
But the real big big difference is that the economic stuff Rocky got SLC city involved in were well vetted, sensible and real world commercial stuff, not a twenty million dollar public funded PeeWee's playhouse surrounded by a mall with no big or classy anchors - if it ever even gets built! In contrast most of SLC's development are private funded and Rocky has not burdened the city with massive debt - like you know who.
Salt Lake City citizens have not been secretly turned into high risk venture capitalists without their consent or knowledge - like Ogden's folks have.
The big developers in SLC are all taking normal, and very large, risks in their pursuit of their rewards. In Ogden the big fish (Boyer primarily) are taking virtually no risk. The property owners and tax payers of Ogden are taking all the risk for them - thanks to Godfrey.
I know these guys and I can assure you Godfrey is no Rocky.
I say hooray for Little Bobby. Just when things are getting dull, he pops up and reminds us all that the human capacity to look clownish is unlimited – not the scary circus clown type of clownish, but the hilariously foolish incompetent kind of clownish. Give us more, Bobby. And please bring Sue Wilkerson with you whenever possible.
The best part was his comment that he won’t just pay the $50 fine, but demands a trial because he says his integrity is worth more than two zip ties. We know THAT’S not true. But what IS true is Bobby feels his TIME is not worth anything. He will spend several hours on this, to try to save fifty bucks! One wishes the bowl haircuts at Descente Headquarters would realize Bobby’s estimate of his own worth, and fire their embarrassing local sales rep in between their morning and afternoon geisha massages.
Seems to me like Bobby, acting on certain representations from a realtor who had the listing, took a logical course of action, that is for the important job of sign manager in an important political race, in removing Neil's sign and replacing it with one for PeeWee. Hell, I'da done the same damn thing if'n I were ever able and high faluting enough to hold such an important job in such an important campaign.
Very little chance of tha being that their ain't a US Service Academy in the whole lot of em that would even consider me for admittance on their worstest day. No sirree, ya oughta see the way those dudes have to make their beds! Shit-O-Dear Man, you can, and must, bounce a friggen quarter off the taughtnes of the damn top blanket! Reminds me waaaay too much of my youthful romp through the good old 101st! Strictly a game for young testosterone laden folks.
Don't get me wrong, I see Neil's POV on this thing as well. I certainly disagree with Bernie's (the satorial Vegas hustler amongst us) take on the deal about Neil just wanting to make political hay over an otherwise insignificant deal. I mean it was insignificant - bush league if you will - that being a guy like Bobby with his high faluting credentials running around screwing with lawn signs. But I degress.
Let's see, where the heck was I?
Oh yes, the thing between competing campaigns. I think the "principal" thing that Neil is standing up for is very important - especially in these days of decayed and highly abused ethics under the Godfrey administration.
On the other hand, Bobby was just doing what any good soldier in a hotly contested campaign would do - take an opportunity to diminish your opponent's good sign exposure and replace it with your guy's, especially when the opportunity slappes you in the face.
Seems like Bobby and the Geiger clan expose themselves for sanction on a lot more important fronts than this.
So I'm on record as saying two things:
!. Go Bobby, don't let the bastards get you down.
and
2. Go Neil, stand up for what is right, this sleazy campaign sign stealing tactic stuff has got to be exposed and stopped, especially if it originates close to the head of campaign for an important job like mayor, a position that theoretically requires high ethical in integrity standing.
Bottome line? - Hey, the little bounder won, fair and square, although I cannot for the life of me figure how that could happen in a just and moral world. We of the ethical opposition have a hell of a lot better and more numerous bullets to fire at the dark side than dwelling on the residue of defeat - our darkest moment.
Let's rise from the ashes and prevail over the dark side by holding up the mirror and reflecting the truth about the Godfreyite scam to the other 52.02 percent of the citizens of Ogden that hasn't seen it yet.
Seems a lot better plan than chasing after Bobby's little peccadillo's with lawn signs.
Besides, I like Bobby, I would hate to see him rise or fall on such a small potato's deal as this.
A realtor has no authority to place political signs on his client's property.
Try again, dumbass.
elmer:
IN which case, seems to me, the legal action ought to be brought against the realtor, que no?
No. It means that Bob Geiger has an imperfect defense to the charged crimes.
Bobby's guilty as hell, and he deserves "the chair."
Oz:
Pretty much agree, Oz. And we need, I think, to keep in mind that this is very small potatoes, crime-wise. And it escalated far more than it should have.
Had I been NH, and had I found a Godfrey Campaign Sock Puppet ripping out my signs [where I had been given permission to place them] and putting up Godfrey signs instead, I'd have done exactly what Neil did. Confront the perp, and call the cops. Mid-campaign, you bet I'd have done that. In a heartbeat.
But it might all have been resolved with just a little embarrassment on Mr. Geiger's part by a prompt recognition that he'd been given bad advice by the Administration [Note to Mr. Bob Geiger: if you are going to continue as a Godfrey spear-carrier, you'd better get used to that.] Followed by a sincerely-phrased, written and public apology to Rep. Hansen. But I suspect Mr. Geiger got his back up, having been caught with his hand in the political cookie jar so to speak.
I think you're right, Oz, that some at least of the cheerleading for the matter going to trial, and the rooting for a "guilty, guilty, guilty" decision is fueled by a mixture of anger at having lost the election, and an understandable [but not very admirable] desire for some revenge, a little payback. But gotta tell ya, anytime I start hearing "let's give him a fair trial, then hang him" arguments, I start getting nervous. Just an all-around bad argument to make.
And now this little tempest in a teapot will continue on, since Mr. Geiger has refused to do what he should have done when the prosecutor offered a cheap ticket out: Apologize for inadvertently wrongly removing Rep. Hansen's sign based on the bad information the Mayor's campaign staff had given him; accept the plea, pay the fifty bucks and end the matter with some dignity. But the chance to do yet more strutting in-your-face histrionics with the press watching was, it sees, just too tempting for him to pass up. So be it.
Expecting reasonable conduct from Hizzonah's minions is, often, in itself an unreasonable act, I guess.
Why does not the mayor tell every one that Geiger was ordered to do what he did and the the mayor is the one that is really breaking the law.
You can't handle the truth, I did order the code red.
If I could do it again I would do it again, because I'm saving this whole city from itself.
sound like the movies. A FEW GOOD MEN.
Integrity: you want the truth............?
YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
And by the way, anyone who has political savvy, it was four zip ties, not two. But hey, I'm not going to complain if some idiot wants to say his integrity is worth two!
If you can't be honest in your dealings with yourself then where is the integrity. Dumbass (Red's voice from That 70's Show) and Geiger put on the stupid helmet because that is you.
Bernie, why are you defending the crook. where is your brains. I bet you are doing this pro-bono and any one that is looking at this will wonder why, or are you the public defender assigned to the case.
now we have our tax dollars defending this little crook.....oh...i mean cronies.
Mayor Goofey and Bob Geniger like to do the Republican bathroom toe tap.
I don't care who you are, that there shit is funny..
Anon:
You are making as many assumptions as you claim those on the other side are making. Your assuming the complaints are "baseless" is as much an unproven assumption as other's claims here that he is guilty, guilty, guilty. And Ms. Wicks' complaint being dismissed does not necessarily mean it was "baseless" [meaning untrue]. It could simply mean the judge believes there is insufficient evidence to justify proceeding.
We know, for example, that a prosecutor brought the charges to a court. He did not have to do that. We know the judge is permitting one set of charges to proceed --- he refused to dismiss them. He didn't have to do that. That suggests to me that the prosecutor and judge see some merit in having the matter heard in court. [I am not assuming guilt here, or predicting that the case will go badly for Mr. Geiger. Merely noting that two people who reviewed the matter and could have ended it --- the prosecutor by refusing to bring the case, the judge by dismissing it --- didn't.]
I say again, had Mr. Geiger handled it -- and himself --- more maturely once he was confronted where he had no right or reason to be that night, doing what he had no right or reason to do, I doubt it would ever have gotten this far. But, sadly, he seems not to have.
You're right about one thing: this is, crime-wise, a very minor matter. Sadly, some folks seem, in their eagerness to have Mr. Geiger declared guilty of something, or their eagerness to see him exonerated, to be making all kinds of comments and assumptions that won't stand much examination. Like the complaint, apparently, about Mr. Geiger's attorney working for free. [I have no idea if he is or isn't.] If he is, that's his choice and his business and I don't see what possible complaint anyone could have about it. The suggesting that Mr. Geiger will get a public defender is equally over the top. [You don't get a public defender simply by asking for one. You have to establish that you cannot afford to pay for an attorney.] And so on.
Be wise, I think, to just step back a bit, and let this play out as Mr. Geiger clearly wants it to play out: with his day in court. And however that turns out, well or badly for him, I for one will be happy to see the whole matter behind us.
Rudi:
Please delete Wayne Peterson's famed Squirrel Patrol Captain Bob Geiger's own third-person comments about himself under the anonymous handle posted on January 11, 2008 at 8:31 p.m. Thank you.
THE SKI IS BEAUTIFUL BLUE
*8:31 a.m.
The assumption here, all along, has been that Bobby Geiger was guilty. Don't forget that Amy Wicks' charges were dismissed by the prosecutor. That's one local politician who pushed a baseless lawsuit against a private citizen at the public's expense. The second case is being pushed all the way down to an "infraction"...which isn't even criminal. Watch out, because Bobby Geiger, just may walk away from this with a pretty strong story: One politician files baseless lawsuit against citizen and State epresentative loses petty case against Bobby Geiger all at the tax payer's expense. After all, it isn't Bobby who is pushing all of this silliness and baseless stuff through the courts....it's Amy Wicks and Neil Hansen.
Neil Hansen isn't forced to push this to court.
One thing you know about Bobby Geiger is that he'll not let go of that bone.
Wrongfully accused, unless you were there in the court you have no knowlege of why the Wicks count was dropped. It could be reserected in the future. And your characterization of it as a lawsuit is also inaccurate.
The truth is that in the Wicks case, the only witness was with short deck. This witness' credibility is dubious at best. He was the main voter challenger in the recent election. Because of his frivilous actions, there will be, and should be more difinitive new election law and policy.
In the Hansen case the witness was not one of short decks buddies, and the police investigation reports short deck acknowleged his actions. His justification is the same but that hardly qualifies his actions as legal. Prosecutors have made the decision that a crime,(however petty) was committed. I would think that a responsible jurist would throw the book at short deck for not taking the plea thus costing the taxpayer more money by his obstinance.
Although having a limited brain capacity(short deck) can be argued as an excuse, and if so determined could allow for dismissal. Send him to Point of the mountain for a 90 day psycological evaluation. If he's deemed fit for trial, throw the book at him.
Bill:
You wrote: I would think that a responsible jurist would throw the book at short deck for not taking the plea thus costing the taxpayer more money by his obstinance.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. Absolutely NOT should judges throw the book at defendants who refuse plea bargains. This would presume guilt had already been established when the plea was refused.
Actually, this is one of the ways the plea bargain system is abused by prosecutors. They bring charges much heavier than the evidence will justify, in order to intimidate defendants to accept a plea [even if innocent] out of fear of facing huge sentences if convicted. It is an abuse.
Curm, we must fight fire with fire. It's well established that abuse is one of the most lethal components of what has become known in these parts as , malicious geigarian geigery, it may be the only effective means of combating it.
I understand that this approach seems somewhat harsh, but to quote all those in public office and those seeking it," we live in extraordinary times". If we can simply attack other nations under the guise of preventing some hypothetical imaginary disaster, eavesdrop on our citizens and withhold information from our Congressional oversight committees, why can't we intiminadate some punk that tries to hijack our democratic proccess? This has been investigated and brought forward, unlike many of those held at gitmo and other clandestine torture facilities around the globe.
Maybe short deck should be water boarded, to find out if lying little matty sanctioned these criminal activities. Do you have any thumb screws in your garage they could borrow?
As Curm says, there's a wide gap between "baseless" and "not enough evidence to prosecute". Wicks was absolutely right to call the police, and the police were absolutely right to bring the charges. But I suspect that the prosecutor who dropped the charges was also absolutely right to conclude that there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute.
This is how the system is supposed to work in such cases.
Curm, you being a historian and all, think this one thru.
To make an example, (positive), and show everyone that we are consistent and fair from a historical perspective, I say short deck be transfered immediately to Ft. Sumpter, New Mexico and upon arrival be force marched to Bosque Redondo, in a duplication of the long walk of the Navajo, no food, clothing or shelter. Once there he should be force to boil and eat his shoes for nourishment, then starved for 4 years, just like them. Then allowed to walk back home.
After all, what he did was far more grievous than any Navajo transgressions.
Bill:
Well, Bill, no. "But the other side does it" is often used to justify doing reprehensible and, here, unconstitutional things. [Jail without trial for American citizens; torture; etc.] It's a very dangerous rationale when applied to constitutional matters, since the constitutional ground conceded often cannot be gotten back, or not without great effort and sacrifice.
Constitutional rights/principles have to apply to all --- even those who despise the constitution --- or they're not worth a bucket of warm spit. And yes, that means Mr. Bob Geiger too. It would be irresponsible, and a violation of his oath of office, for a judge to "throw the book at" or in any way increase a sentence because Mr. Geiger refused to accept a plea offer. Very wrong.
Nothing wrong with a prosecutor saying to the accused "We're willing to offer you a sentence softer than what we think the evidence justifies in order to save the bother of a trial." It is not ok to say "We're charging you with a much more serious crime than we think we can prove, in order to frighten you into pleading guilty without trial to the [lesser] crime we think the evidence justifies." That is abuse. As it would be if the judge in any way increased a sentence simply because the accused declined a plea. He is entitled, as a matter of fundamental right, to a day in court if he wants it, and should never be punished simply for exercising that right. Not even Bob Geiger.
Now stop making me write things in defense of Mr. Geiger. Puts me right off my feed, it does....
Bill:
IN re: Geiger and the Long Walk: past abuses never justify present ones.
Listing agents do not have the authority to grant such uses on properties they represent, nor can they allow third-party access without a purpose tied to the sale, appraisal or physical improvement of the property; that's why Short-deck's mischief and trespassing charges hold water. Sure, many may think it's a petty manner but, as Mr. Hansen has said time and again, Short-deck got in his face, challenged him to prosecute and thumbed his nose at him. Mr. Hansen's damn good and well justified for seeing this through. And as for Ozboy's ongoing fawning over his little pal, his incessant pandering for favor from this otherwordly gondola lover, I have only this to offer:
I don't go to bed with no whore and I don't wake up with no whore; that's how I live with myself. I don't see how you do it.
Jason:
You wrote: but, as Mr. Hansen has said time and again, Short-deck got in his face, challenged him to prosecute and thumbed his nose at him. Mr. Hansen's damn good and well justified for seeing this through.
Yup. When it all could probably have been short-stopped with an apology and some adult behavior on Mr. Geiger's part, it seems he chose to act instead like a middle-schooler in a playground spat. [ Something close to this maybe? "Oh yeah? Oh yeah? Ya want a piece of me? Think you can handle it? Go for it, big guy, call the cops." And so on.]
I can see why the Godfreyistas opted to create a replacement for Lift Ogden called Envision Ogden: they were hoping for adult leadership in the new group.
Dear Mr. Curm, I wasn't advocating too harsh a penalty, only what the law allows. The long walk wasn't really a death penalty, only between 1/4 and 1/3 died. It was all dependent on their own ability to survive. As for comparing the severity of transgressions short deck actually broke a law(?), the only transgression on the part of the Dine(Navajo) was breathing.
I am sorry for making you mount a defense for short deck, I can only imagine how painfull that must be.
Hey, no one has mentioned how now that they just wrote off 6.3 million RDA debt, lying little matty's economic dept. has come up with 2.5 million bucks to buy 2 lots in the GONDOLA zone on 23rd. st. What Gives?
It's being proposed to protect future IRS growth, but the article quotes the IRS as saying they have no plans to expand. Wasn't they're excuse for acting as agents for gadi that they had no money? This 2.5 million is more than he's spending on those options.
I think a rather amusing side story to this petty drama is that you have Bernie Allen defending Bobby. Bernie is the brother of Ed who we all know is the mayor's father in law and mentor. Both Ed and Bernie occupy leading positions in the Godfreyite movement alongside Bobby and his Papa Curt. I believe Bernie and Ed are also owners of the building that Descente is in across from City Hall.
Now Ed and his tight little circle represent the loser side of the Democratic party in recent Weber County history. Meanwhile we have squeaky clean Neil Hansen who represents the winning side of that same Democratic party in these parts. (A solitary figure for sure!)
Then we have Bernie publicly attacking Neil on of all things - ethics issues! A leading spokesman for the dark side casting dispersions on a lone light bearer!
I mean this is pretty funny stuff that might make it on TeeVee! Ya tuned in here Rupert old pal? I hear the box office a ringing here in the land of Oz!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at this point, it's not Neil Hansen and Amy Wicks "pushing" this through the courts. They might have brought the original complaint, but it's up to the prosecutor's office to pursue criminal charges, and the judge to determine if enough evidence exists to bring it to trial. If the "silly" and "baseless" matter were to be dropped, that decision would not be made by Hansen or Wicks.
Correct?
When I attempted to pull a discourteous motorist through his wing window, he didn't charge me a crime–the county attorney did. By the way, Anger Management is expensive ... and not very effective.
Beaver, I don't believe short decks yellow thing with all those decals has a wing window. Too Bad. That would be amusing.
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I hereby nominate Ozboy for permanent WCF banishment: I get that you're exceedingly rich. I understand your worldview. But screw you with your B. Geiger cheerleading. Sincerely. I've listened to your platitudes about Glasmann "I would hate to see him lose his job," yet your asshole friend B. Geiger actively and chickenshitly campaigns to remove honest folks from theirs. That's why you're out of touch, Mr. Multimillionaire Farmington Guy; suck on it. I've had it with you and your pal Geiger, you morons you. And while you're at it, share it with THE SKI IS BEAUTIFUL BLUE. You have no shame, either of you.
Has anyone here ever met Jason W?
Jason is the kind of guy who got picked on in high school and whose mother petitioned the principle to remove dodge ball from recess activity.
He's found a home on this blog because it allows him to be the tough guy that he could never be in real life.
Ozboy...Jason W. would never make those comments to your face. Even though you are probably 30 years older than he is, his lower lip would begin to quiver if he actually had to confront you with his invective.
I must apologize to Ozboy for my vehement rhetoric, but the principle stands: he has enough money and time to socialize about with the chickenshit Nazi likes of Short-deck Geiger, whereas us working folk whose jobs Short-deck threatens don't take kindly to Geiger's Geigerian shit, which Ozboy repeatedly espouses. When I'm rational, as opposed to my fed-upedness of last night, I believe Mr. Ozboy to be among the best and finest and most generous of OTown's first begotten sons, but I wouldn't hesitate to call him full of shit in, re: Geiger to his face, and I believe he knows this. Further, Mr. Real, most people on this blog know who I am, as some have met me and I use my real name, as opposed to you, jerkoff. Likewise, most members of Wayne Peterson's famed Squirrel Patrol know who I am as well, and what's with this high school shit? I loved high school; you're describing the experience of a moron like Lying Little Matty Gondola Godfrey. Short-deck said the same kind of lilly-livered horsehockey when I confronted him after he called me a pussy. Ask him if he still thinks I am a chickenshit; he likely has a very poor opinion of me and deservedly so, but I doubt he thinks I am a coward. Get it straight, knucklehead: I excelled in dodge ball and I am most certainly not a tough guy. But I do not hide behind pseudonyms like you. Ciao, loser.
Geiger called you a pussy to your face? Wow!
What did you do?
I'd love for him to call me a pussy to my face, I'd knock him on his can.
Please do tell. What did you do?
One thing about that Geiger....He doesn't call people "chickenshit" in a blog under the name Rob G.
He'll look you right in the eye and tell you what he thinks.
I hope you popped him though.
Please tell what you did. Did you throw a dodge ball at him?
Ozboy,
You should confront Jason W. and call him a pussy to his face. He deserves it.
What ever happened to the Ogden of my youth where people like Jasson got their ass kicked by the little girl next door?
Bob G. has done some things in the last year that have added meaurably to his bad Karma.
He's approached Ogden politics in a warlike fashion, and will soon reap his just rewards.
Ozboy will NEVER confront Jason W., I predict
Jason has eclipsed Ozboy on this blog as the most humerous and jagged poster; and Ozboy must surely appreciate Jason W. for his wit, wisdom and schtick.
Geiger's approach won though. The Mayor go re-elected, and I'm sure that the Geigers had a lot to do with it.
We had that election tied up until those jerks showed up.
I told the Geigers that they were latching themsevles to a falling star with Godfrey and that we controlled Ogden politics and Godfrey's future.
The response was..."Do your best, Godfrey will win."
Well...Godfrey is on the 9th floor--STILL.
You are likely right about one thing... The Geigers are reaping rewards.
A $100 million dollar hotel brought by the Gondola project, Walmart, Gadi Lesham river clean up, Robert Kennedy in town, on and on and on.
The Geigers projected every one of those issues when I talked to them, and because if their approach to Ogden politics, everyone of them has come true.
They've made their own destiny, and Ogden has to stomach another $100 million investment. We might have to change our underwear to go downtown.
This place is becoming a cesspool for private investment.
Damn them!
I'd still like to know what Jason W. did when Geiger called him a pussy. And...which Geiger did that, the old man or the punk kid.
I'm sure that Jason gave them their just deserves.
So, Jason, tell us. What did you do when Geiger called you a pussy to your face?
Reading what you write here, I can understand why he might say that do you. What did you do?
I've done some investigating. I heard from the former Secretary at the Descente offices that when Geiger came out of his staff meeting to contront you, your lip quivered like a little girl and you may have peed your pants. I was told that Geiger had to tell you to stand up straight and act like a man after you almost started to cry. Because you couldn't contront him to his expectations, he tossed you out of their offices and asked you to come back when you could stand with a straight back and speak without wimpering.
Jason, tell me that isn't true! Tell me it was the secretary that had you that discombobulated, not short deck.
>>>Geiger's approach won though. The Mayor go re-elected, and I'm sure that the Geigers had a lot to do with it.<<<
The Geiger approach was to mercilously smear anyone and everyone who opposed Godfrey.
The Geiger Karma will play it out in Ogden equally mercilously. There exists now no safe haven in Ogden for the Geigers.
Having shown themselves for the nasty people they are, the Geigers will soon reap their just reward.
Are you threatening the Geigers? Please tell what you are going to do to them.
Tar and feather?
Lynching?
Crucify?
Kick them out of the Elk's lodge?
What?
One thing we have to keep in mind is that we hate them so bad because they won. If they were stupid and ineffective, we wouldn't spend so much time talking about them. We could spend more time at the 15 All A DOLLAR stores rather than figuring out how they got Robert Kennedy to come to town, or Gadi Lesham to invest millions of dollars, or how they are benefiting from a $100 million hotel...
I've always been baffled on how they got the Mayor re-elected? He was threw. We had him down. This is what I've been trying to figure out. HOW? HOW? HOW?
Jason?
Where are you? Is it true what "True" said? Did your lip quiver, your voice wabble, your head drop, and your eyes tear up when Geiger called you a pussy to your face?
I can see Geiger doing that to you. After all he did spend some time as drill instructor. Don't take it too hard, he's probably made real men cry too.
Oh, pound it up your ass Bobby.
Dang it Jason, you caught me!
Of course you did though, because you were there when it happened.
If we meet again, my hope is that you'll be wearing a diaper. That was embarassing for you.
Bob Geiger
Bob, you didn't call me a pussy to my face. You called me that on this blog. I went to your office. You screamed and ranted like a madman, and said exactly this: "You are the kind of guy who yells dickhead in high school and runs away."
I said, "I'm standing right here."
The reason I called you out on this blog is because I wrote an email to Lift Ogden accusing you of stealing my sign, and signed it with my name and home information. Instead of contacting my home, you chose to call my work, and report that I had written a profanity -- "assclown" -- on a work email.
That's tough guy shit right there, buddy.
I didn't pee my pants, I didn't quiver, I was aghast at your childishness and arrogance and you didn't toss me out; your dad did. And you're absolutely right, I wouldn't throw a cut at a trained killer like you. I'm not stupid. But at least I had the balls to come to your office, and tell you what a chickenshit thing you did to your face. And I heard what you said to your secretary. And you are full of shit.
Good luck with your GONDOLA, though, and sell many jackets on Monday.
THE SKI IS BEAUTIFUL BLUE
*P.S.: You, Short-deck, and Lying Little Matty Gondola Godfrey must have really had a hard time at Bonneville and Weber high schools, because you have such a complex. I would think that a Marine officer and graduate of the Naval Academy wouldn't internalize so much abuse you two apparently suffered at the
"hands" of your classmates way back when in little old high school. And I've done some research, too, about your time at BHS, little pal, and let's just say short-man's disease and inferiority complexes run amok in Wayne Peterson's famed Squirrel Patrol. Again, sell many mittens!
P.P.S.: Geiger, you apparently don't like the word "nepotism." But here's a good dose for you, you pussy-asshole loser: "My Daddy is the boss! I can never be fired! My Daddy is my boss! I have a neat master's degree, but I work for my daddy! Daddy? Can I have a raise? Those people are breaking my windows because I love GONDOLAS! Please give me a raise, Daddy! Please, help me, Daddy! I want GONDOLAs. I am a genius! But you are my boss, Daddy! How can we get GONDOLAS? Daddy? I want GONDOLAs! That's your boy, Ozboy. F&&& you."
bob I got to tell you that the gundolo and you were a bad idea. and I think you should get out of site because nobody wants to see your face again.
Rejoinder: "Daddy! Why does everybody hate me? I love gondolas! I love Lying Little Matty Gondola Godfrey! Please help me, Daddy!"
Just watch and see what happens.
I predict that in just little over 3 months from down that there will be a great big change in Ogden city administration.
Yes you herd it first right here from me.
Just for the record, the geigers,(potato nose and short deck) won nothing. Their big deal was the "sell the park land scam Urban gondola lift ogden crap". They were soundly defeated. As for the recent political races, godfrey ordered them into hiding due to the vitriol that seems ever present where ever they go. I have all the candidate filings and geigers gave less than many put into the salvation army buckets at you local grocery.
Jason on the other hand was very valuable in the defeat of the geigers. Just because he doesn't suffer from the same low self esteem as the geigers that requires the attachment of their name to all involved, I can assure you Jason's contributions have been hardly passive support. Jason's contributions to the effort went a long way in the killing of geigers grand design.
I still have a hard time wrapping my brain around the lying little matty election squeaker, but the geigers are the answer.
Damn keyboard, that last post should end, potato nose and short deck are not the answer.
So, Ozboy, how do you feel about your little buddy Geiger? What a great egg, huh? Is that what you discovered after your four-hour onion roll lunch with the little toupee-wearer? C'mon, Ozboy, get in here and defend him like you always do. Daddy's boy showed real character there, clown. Next time you have onion rolls and vitamin water with little Bobby, ask him about his dalliances in the Tom Moore, AKA Jay Asquith Cavendish, lifestyle. It's no wonder he has issues with high school. Your friend, Bob Geiger: a real treat! Someone who is interesting and will add a lot to our (not yours, Farmington guy) community once he gets over his GONDOLA madness, eh?
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