As every red-blooded Weber County Forum political wonk is by now acutely aware, today is Ogden City Municipal Primary Election Day. The polls opened at 7:00 a.m., and will remain in business until 8:00 this evening at all Ogden City voter precinct polling places.
We do hope you all took our dunning advice, visited your designated polling location, did your civic duty and cast your vote for the Ogden City Council At-large Seat "A" candidate of your choice.
Yeah, we know. The tension is unbearable. But although the polls close at 8:00 p.m., experience dictates that initial vote counts probably won't start rolling in until around 9:00 p.m. or later. So exercise some patience, folks.
And for those of you who might be inclined to offer your primary election day wisdom, the floor's now officially open for your ever-savvy comments.
Update 8/13/13 8:55 p.m.: The tote board has started to light up. Thompson and White are neck-and-neck.
Update 8/13/13 9:39 p.m.: Final (unofficial) tally, with 100% of precincts reporting:
- Marcia L. White 804 52%
- Stephen D. Thompson 597 39%
- Sheri Morreale 147 9%
Update 8/14/13 6:00 a.m.: Both The Standard and Tribune report that Thompson and White will indeed "face off" in the November general election. For sake of clarification, Ogden City Municipal primaries are "nominating elections," per Ogden City Code Section 1-7-1, dovetailing with applicable statutes in the Utah Elections Code, which distinguish, albeit clumsily, between "General" and "Primary" elections and lack "majority winner take all" nominating election provisions.
Update 8/15/13 8:00 a.m.: For archival purposes, here's a screenshot of Tuesday night's final vote tallies:
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6% Turnout? Shameful, No?
24 comments:
It would be fun to try to predict how many Ogden citizens will vote in this election. Off the top of my head, I'd guess about two or three thousand.
Less than 2000.
800
There hasn't been a lot of buzz, but we could be surprised seeing how this is an open seat. I'm going to say 800
1842
1843. You forgot to count me.
Wow! Get this: "Total Voter Turnout for Race: 806 3%," which means that Morreale is for all intents and purposes already out of the race, and that Gentle Readers LibertyinUtah and Guest were right on the money with their 800 vote predictions.
1548 after everything was said and done. Ben and Bob were closer.
Yep. H/T to Ben and Bob!
I'm not seeing anything about the over 50% votes in the city or state code. Still looking.
20A-1-303. Determining results.
(1) (a) When one person is to be elected or nominated, the person receiving the highest number of votes at any:
(i) election for any office to be filled at that election is elected to that office; and
(ii) primary for nomination for any office is nominated for that office.
(b) When more than one person is to be elected or nominated, the persons receiving the highest number of votes at any:
(i) election for any office to filled at that election are elected to that office; and
(ii) primary for nomination for any office are nominated for that office.
(2) Any ballot proposition submitted to voters for their approval or rejection:
(a) passes if the number of "yes" votes is greater than the number of "no" votes; and
(b) fails if:
(i) the number of "yes" votes equal the number of "no" votes; or
(ii) the number of "no" votes is greater than the number of "yes" votes.
Anticipating this situation, I did some research this afternoon, but came up dry. Keep looking. I'm hitting the rack.
Primary is only for nominations, as far as I can understand. This part could be misinterpreted, but there is that AND between the primary and general election lines.
We will have a run off.
Definitely makes sense.
I agree with Bob. As evidence, I submit these 2012 school board primary election results, of which I am sadly familiar: http://www.standard.net/stories/2012/06/26/bond-weber-district-passes-n-ogden-residents-defeat-prop-1-ogden-school-board-inc
And it's not even called a runoff. It's called a general election. The primary is merely to nominate two candidates for the general election.
Yep. Here's the applicable city ordinance (OMC Section 1-7-1: ELECTIONS), which provides as follows:
A. Municipal Elections: Municipal elections held in the city shall be
classified as primary nominating elections, general municipal elections or special municipal elections. All elections shall be conducted in accordance with the procedures prescribed in the pertinent provisions of
the election code of the state.
The White/Thompson race should be interesting. Ms.White took a majority of the votes cast in a very low turnout primary, but Mr. Thompson is definitely w/in striking distance. Be very interesting to see how each candidate plays it from here.Thompson seems to be building a class-appeal campaign --- "man of the people/ordinary guy who knows the score" etc. Ms. White so far seems to be running on her record of public service. Let's us hope both of them flesh out those broad campaign framings with some substance involving plans, ideas, policies beyond platitudes and urban cheer leading.
Thompson charactersises himself as "the Man of the people."
We still don't quite know what Marcia Whitie REALLY stands for folks, since she speaks in parables and annoying political cliches.
Keep this in mind as we approach the November election:
Ms. White's mountain of campaign donations prettty much come from the same folks who supported "Boss Godfrey."
Something to carefully consider, don'tcha thin?
Food for thought, don'tcah think?
Well, Rudi, "man of the people" is a pretty mossy old cliche too. And I know people campaigning for Ms. White who were heavily involved in mayoral campaigns attempting to oust The Boy Wonder Mayor and who were in no way Godfreyistas.
In any case, he's gone. I don't want to know where the candidates stood on Godfrey. I want to know where they stand on Hizzonah Mayor Caldwell, and on the issues/problems they'll have to address as council members.
I haven't seen a lot of specifics from either campaign yet. Hoping to see more from both before election day. For now, I'm solidly in the undecided column. My vote's up for grabs.
Hopefully, we'll have a couple of Council candidate debates, where these people can appear in public, answer questions and actually qualify themselves for our "stingy" votes.
"I haven't seen a lot of specifics from either campaign yet."
Bingo, Bob!
Rudi...sorry for posting this here...but I think it warrants attention into the matter of our cities, counties, library and school districts bonding matters....
http://market-ticker.org/cgi-t...
the rooster is going to come home to roost and ya all aint gonna like it....just who do you think is going to get stuck with the bill when this happens...
hello city council and your water/sewer bond....
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