Trust the ass-wipes at the Mormon newspaper to try to rehabilitate the reputation of the "little shite."
By: Blackrulon
Off-track but still relevant. There is a story in today's Deseret News (August 31, 2012) by Lee Benson (brother of federal judge Dee Benson) about former mayor Matthew Godfrey. It repeats Godfrey's claims about all of the wonderful things he did for or to Ogden without touching on the reality of his time in the Ogden City mayors office:
Editor's Addendum: Trust the ass-wipes at Utah's Mormon Newspaper to try to rehabilitate the reputation of the "little shite."
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21 comments:
And you're still available to tear him down. Some things never change.
And the media still loves Godfrey, still seeks him out, still sits at his feet. You gotta hand it to Godfrey. Somebody out there really loves him.
But what does that tell you about people in media? Does it not prove they are clueless?
I'm trying to leave a comment on the DesNews site, summarizing why the jobs statistics are misleading. First the comment was automatically rejected because it contained a "long unbreakable line" (namely, the URL of my July 29 article). So I replaced the full URL with simply "wcforum.blogspot.com". My comment then got past the automated system, but eventually I got an email saying that the moderator had rejected my comment because it contains a web link. Nowhere in the written comment policy does it say anything prohibiting web links. But I went ahead and resubmitted the comment without the web link. A few minutes later I got an email saying "We have received your comments and forwarded them on to the appropriate parties." In other words, moderator has seen my comment, and apparently chosen to forward it to someone rather than letting it appear on their site. Good grief.
How cool. That last "Ogden Homer" comment came straight from the Deseret News.
D-news: Just like Fox News-Fair and Balanced...NOT
That's the sort of thing that happens when its easier to post on the WCF than the Deseret News comment page.
Being a genuine dyed in the wool newspaper junkie, I therefor do not read the Deseret News, which abandoned any pretense of being a general circulation newspaper some time ago. [Note: Church ownership would not in and of itself make it less than a real paper, so long as the LDS Church limited its input over news policy and reporting to the editorial pages. The Christian Science Monitor was for a long time a good paper, because the church that owned it wanted it to be and left news policy and reporting to the pros. ] But the last bloodletting at the DN and the application of, in effect, a Loyalty Oath to those who run the news side [not the editorial side] ended the paper's status as a real general circulation daily paper. I know LDS newsmen... real ones... who are embarrassed by what the DN now puts out and calls a newspaper.
What happened to Dan's comments at the DN is the best argument against aggressively monitored newspaper comment boards. I know the Trib boards, and the SE boards can get tiresomely nasty, and descend into seemingly endless playground bravado ["You're a moron!" "No, you're a moron!" etc ad nauseum. ] But that sort of adolescent drivel from [alleged] adults is the price we have to pay, I'm afraid, for real commentary and criticism, like Dan's, to get posted as well. The alternative is the Pollyanna Dick-and-Jane monitoring the DN does of its comment boards.
Unfair. Taking the DN as an example of "the media" is an insult to real newspapers [and before you ask, weak though it sadly too often is, I think the SE is a real newspaper. Not the one it should be, but a real one none the less. So is the Trib [again, not the one it should be.] . The DN is not.
I find it telling that the only comment allowed on the DN Godfrey story is a letter of praise from a Bountiful resident. And the comment criticizing Dan S. comes from SLC. It still appears that the most vocal of Godfrey defenders are not Ogden residents.
I for one do not miss Matthew Godfrey and his administration. I will admit that he did some things right, but also more things wrong. His hand choosen bunch of thugs only showed the citizens that if you were not favored by this elite group, you did not exist and matter to his inspired goals. Micro-manager he was, financial whiz-kid, he wasn't. He never trusted his people and most turned on him. Put that in the history books and hope he doesn't ever have political ambitions again, please.
Great job, Dr. Dan.
From what you report v DesNEWS article on THE BOSS, and you attempts to post in their comment section, I suspect the DesNEWS has tightened up their comment review policy, after the schallacking a bunch of us TRIB POSTERS gave DesNEWs after DECISION 2008. At that time the SL TRIB ran lots of informative articles on just how much MORMON MAFIA MONEY had been shipped into CA to impact Prop 8 vote.
The SL TRIB did such a good job of following the Prop 8 Blow Back, that there was new SL TRIB Prop 8 article, once a week or more often, for months. ALL of those SL TRIB Prop 8 articles went to over 600 comments. Once the TRIB had another one up, someone posted that url on the tail end of the current SL T article.
By April 2008, when the SLC based teacher made a petition to put a larger- than- life statue of Harvey Milk on the lawn of the Utah State Capital, the entire SL TRIB poster group jumped on the DesNews report of that petition, starting with the guy who was going to PAY for the Harvey Milk statue. We ALL got on the DesNEWS and then went back over to the TRIB to laugh about the reaction.
Since that kind of scenario @dvs1444:disqus
DesNews has probably escalated this year, long before the RNC this past week.
Thanks for posting this. As a regular poster on the SL TRIB from 11.2008 on, I can report that the level of intelligence demonstrated by non-LDS DEMs on the political articles of the SL TRIBUNE is very high. I regularly post SL TRIB articles to my WC DEM / CD#1 political satire blog, and then pull the best comment and post that as well.
I would also like to thank Rudi Zinc, our Blog Meister here, for not deleting any comment we throw at him, unless it is really rude.
Danny........Which MEDIA are you referring to? I suspect you could only point to the DesNEWs and SE Doug Gibson pathetic blog on FB.
gotta add that there is NOTHING like one more Godfrey DesNEWs send up, to bring out all the WCF Lifers, incl. me, to have some fun on WCF on this lovely SAT am. Hahahahah.
As far as Matthew Godfrey having political ambitions in the future, here in Utah, I for one know that I can count on this lively group to produce GODFREY REVEALED on a daily basis. I promise to use my SMM skill set, to help that go viral, in a flash. Hahahah.
Bob, considering the writing staff of the SE, esp. people like commentator Doug Gibson........aside from using the SE for mattress stuffing or forest service toilet paper, the best part of the SE is the digital version. Through it I know many of us have been commenting mildly, then recommending that all critical thinkers log over to WCF where a real conversation is taking place.
Even though I helped the SE get a vast array of eyeballs, during the Huntsville July 4 2012 Parade anti-Obama Float Fiasco, which in turn, helped the world learn that Huntsville / OV is no place for DEMs, so save your campaign $$$$$,........the number of articles the SE published on that story, over a 4 wk period, got the SE digital version of each higher comment #### than the SE has ever experienced before.......
The number of people now blogging onto Doug Gibson FB blog to give him a raft of BS on a daily basis, for being .........just exactly what he is...........that kind of digital traffic keeps the SE alive, not as a newspaper, but as a media bulletin board for the kinds of things that this blog will not cover, like the OC / WC daily police blotter reports.
Guess it takes all kinds now don't it
I think better of the SE than you do. You need to remember the paper's reduced circumstances and reduced staff. But I agree they're, reduced staff and all, not where they should be on local news... which is odd since the management ( rightly) understands state and national news is delivered much faster by on line sources. Exclusivity meaning local is mostly what they can provide better. And too often they're not. Local news is what they have to sell. They'd better get better at it.
Clarification: Flatlander above is me. Log on screen got persnickity. Sorry.
Follow-up: I eventually emailed the author of the article, Lee Benson. He apologized for the apparent rejection of my online comment, but took no responsibility for the actions of the DesNews "comment police".
Regarding the substance of my comment, he defended his treatment of the job statistics claims in his article, first saying that these claims were "sourced" (that is, attributed to an outside source). So I pointed out that one of the claims (8000 new jobs) was actually unsourced, while the other (Ogden led the country in job growth during Godfrey's final year) was sourced to the Bureau of Labor Statistics when he had actually gotten it from Godfrey. At that point he tried to change the subject.
Here, in any case, is the offending online comment that I tried to post on August 31:
Those jobs statistics are misleading. Of the 8,000 "new" jobs, many merely moved from one location to another within the city. The rest may have been new but they were offset by concurrent job losses. The best available data suggest that Ogden actually saw a net loss of about 2,000 jobs during the Godfrey years. As for the 3.7% increase in 2011, that was for the Ogden-Clearfield metropolitan area, where nearly all of the job growth was actually in Davis County. That figure was also based on preliminary data that have since been revised downward. For full documentation, see the 29 July 2012 article on Weber County Forum (wcforum.blogspot.com).
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