Thursday, December 18, 2008

More From the Standard-Examiner In Re the Malan's/Strong's Clearcutting Mystery

Boss Godfrey chimes in... and "plays dumb"
“I suspect it’s old work,” [Mayor] Godfrey said Wednesday, adding he’s puzzled why local Sierra Club members are just now noticing the clearing that may be related to the construction of a ski run.
Godfrey, who admitted he doesn’t know for sure when the clearing was done, said he hasn’t talked recently with Peterson about his plans for the Malan’s Basin property, touted as the possible location for a year-round resort.

When, why questions go unanswered after clearing
December 18, 2008

Jock Glidden, a Sierra Club member who hiked to Malan’s Basin on Dec. 6, said he’s stunned by Godfrey’s statement the clearing may be two years old.
“It’s a very fresh cutting,” Glidden said. “It’s beyond belief that the mayor doesn’t know anything about it. He’s playing dumb.”

When, why questions go unanswered after clearing
December 18, 2008

Freshly returned from his one week European Street Car Study Junket, Boss Godfrey allows not even a single day to elapse before firing up more controversy in connection with the Peterson clearcutting story,which has had Emerald City lumpencitizens all abuzz these past several weeks. We link Ace Reporter Schwebke's morning story below:
When, why questions go unanswered after clearing
The Standard-Examiner editorial board also gets into the act this morning, with a pointed editorial, urging the reclusive and publicly mistrusted Mr. Peterson to conduct himself in the manner of a good neighbor, with improved openness and candor:
Malan's Basin questions
We're delighted to see the Std-Ex get involved in the investigation and discussion of this story. This, we believe, is just what a local home town newspaper should do.

Although we've devoted plenty of electronic ink to the discussion of the Malan's Basin/Strong's Canyon clearcutting mystery over the past few weeks, this abundance of previous discussion doesn't mean our conversation should come to a halt. In that connection we again invite our readers to chime in with their own comments, in light of the new material which the Std-Ex provides this morning.

Have at it, O gentle ones.


Curmudgeon said...

So, the SE Editorial Board got miffed when Mr. Peterson stiffed their reporter. SE always gets miffed... as it should... when people clam up and either refuse to talk to it, or try to hide what they're up to. [Think again of those e-mails detailing the Godfrey Administration's attempts to keep the Council from finding out what it was doing with UTA to pay for a gondola prep study.] All well and good, for both the SE and the public have much to gain from openness and accountability being taken seriously, especially by elected public officials. Since Mr. Peterson is not one, the SE was wise --- and right --- to couch its criticism of him in purely pragmatic terms, arguing that Mr. Peterson is just making the things he wants to do harder to make happen.

However, let's not go all-over gooey with praise for the editorial. It ends, after all, advocating an "innovative" use for Malan's Basin that will "generate interest, business and tourism" for Ogden. The editorial seems not to even consider the possibility that the best use for the land in terms of generating "interest, business and tourism" for Ogden may be to leave it wild. Why should an "innovative" use for wilderness land be preferred straight out of the gate? Particularly since established wilderness areas have a proven record of attracting "interest, business and tourism" to their gateway towns.

Perhaps an "innovative" use for Malan's Basin would be the best use. But such shouldn't be presumed so from the start.

Curmudgeon said...

ON a not-unrelated topic, very interesting editorial this morning in the SL Trib [link here ]. It's about urban sprawl in northern Utah and it draws a sharp line between what it calls "smart growth" --- now where have I heard that term before? --- and, well, dumb growth. Worth a read, I think.

Keisha said...

Based on their proven track record, we know we're in trouble when Godfrey and Peterson go into stealth mode.

Tom Owens said...

Off topic here folks but the Marshall White center is a little short again this year in providing a Christmas for the needy amongst us. They are doing better this year than last, but they still are in need of money and gifts for several families. Please call Jill at 629-8346 and make arrangements for a donation if you can. I'll be there with some cash and I hope you can join me in this important effort.

Bill C. said...

Well, at least we know a leopard can't change it's spots. Funny how lying little matty's imediate response is totally dishonest. He has a perfect veiw of the new work from his 9th floor office. Not to mention that the whole public works department has been trying to figure out whats up, they have watched the whole thing as they work at the top of 36th st. Helicopters, chain saws, only a deaf person or deaf and blind would have missed it, even Helen Keller would have felt the vibrations.
No, true to form lying little matty resorts to his first natural inclination, dishonesty. Though it may still be dishonest, a better response would have been simply to state that he has no idea what the thorazine addled, vest sporting, bushy tailed rodent phobic wonder is up to.
At least the gondola examiner has once more given the public sound validation that the mayor has truely earned his name, lying little matty gondola godfrey." Curt, can I go potty?"

Tom said...

Just one more example of the mayor's dissembling nature. It sometimes seems he will lie even when the truth is better!

It is also interesting that the Standard continues to spread the basic lie that it was the mayor's idea to not sell Mount Ogden Golf course to his buddy Peterson. The truth is that for several years he was a strong proponent of this immoral giveaway to his pal and only withdrew the idea after a firestorm of opposition during the last election.

Another semi myth the Standard is promoting is that there used to be a "resort" in Malan's basin. Although there was a rough and small "hostel" up there in the late 1800's, it was by no stretch of the imagination a "Resort"

Back when Peterson and the Mayor were promoting the Mount Ogden giveaway they were telling the lie that it was a "Presidential" retreat, and had actually been visited by US Presidents. Not true although Teddy Roosevelt did visit the old Hermitage in Ogden Canyon after he was out of office.

There are many people that do not trust the mayor and believe he is still working secret angles to get this crown jewel of Ogden into the hands of his cronies.

OgdenLover said...

We shouldn't forget that the Mayor abandoned his plan to sell the golf course ONLY because he was running for re-election. That's the sole reason he listened to citizen concerns. He's been re-elected, so beware.

Southsider said...


Glad to see I'm not the only one tired of that "Godfrey has refused to sell the golf course" line.

And, yes it seems just saying he didn't know that the cutting was happening (probably a lie) isn't enough, he has to say "I suspect it's old work" just so we all know that it's a lie. Does he just revel in lying, or the fact that he can get away with it!

Merle said...

I believe that the mayor's veracity problems are part of his Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

A brief description of this from Wikipedia follows. It sure seems that the mayor fits most of the criteria:

(NPD) is a personality disorder defined by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the diagnostic classification system used in the United States, as "a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and a lack of empathy."

The narcissist is described as turning inward for gratification rather than depending on others and as being excessively preoccupied with issues of personal adequacy, power and prestige.[2] Narcissistic personality disorder is closely linked to self-centeredness.

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement
6. is interpersonally exploitative
7. lacks empathy
8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Jason W. said...

Holy Jesus! I, too, am continually puzzled at, but not surprised by, the genesis of Lying Little Matty Gondola Godfrey's juvenile petulance regarding an abject disregard of the truth. Who does this teeny-tiny, gigantic-foreheaded gondola freak think he's kidding? GTrain? THE SKI IS BEAUTIFUL BLUE? Short-deck? Cavendish? Is anyone buying his bullshit anymore? It's quite telling that Wayne Peterson, the vest-wearing fan of Thorazine, bona fide batshit loony leader of his own famed Squirrel Patrol, isn't speaking to his erstwhile European lover, the dwarf alleged spouse abuser from Harrisville. Oh, how he must have lamented his last trip across the pond, where he would gaze at proposed THE GONDOLAs and Wayne's fat ass, overcome with concupisence and a bizzare hankering for onions. And that Gondola-Examiner "editorial" was another piece of milquetoast pap masquerading as opinion when in reality it is simply reads: "Take the next step! Take the next step! Take the next step! Take the next step!"


Wistleblower Tweet said...

How is it possible that the lyin' little shit doesn't know about Peterson's helicopter landing zone on Ogden City property?

The little shite lies through his teeth constantly, and yet there are some morons in Ogden who think the little waste of protoplasm is "A-OK"


Curious 1 said...

What kind of permit did they get to land there? I would of called a cop, oops forgot the chief is in the mayors pants pocket too.

a different tom said...

my favorite line in the SE editorial is: "questions regarding the clearing, including when the work occured, could be cleared up ..."
So, since Godfrey says he "suspects its old work," but then adds that he doesn't really know when the work was done, this means there are questions about when when the work occured? Give me a break SE editorial staff.
I have to agree with others that the SE editorial left much to be desired.

chop shop said...

I am guessing that the little prick did not know because he could not see over his czar desk. He fisrt saw the cut lines when short deck gave him a boost.Get back to Euro land and smoke some more gunge stay away for about o i dont know 3 more years!!!

Curmudgeon said...

On this "when" question nonsense --- there is no "when" question. Has the SE not noticed that the map it ran right next to Mr. Schwebke's original story indicated which cuts had been made in years past, and which were recent? Doesn't the SE look at the maps it prints to illustrate its own stories? [And if it doesn't, why should it expect its readers to?]

danny said...

Good one, Curm.

And it seems the Standard runs the same artices over and over to fill space. I wonder if they're in more trouble than they let on.

Rafiki said...

What's needed;

We need more drama here in Ogden. Got to get people away from the T.V. and into the local news. Then we won't loose our only paper.

I don't know how to create drama, but it can't be very hard.

monotreme said...

It just goes to show, the Mayor doesn't look up when he goes out in Ogden, he looks down.

For, if he ever looked up at the beautiful mountain that rises above the city, he would see the nasty scar running across its face.

His inability to see Mt. Ogden actually explains a lot, in my opinion.

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