Monday, November 15, 2010

Standard-Examiner: Godfrey Wants Study for Field House Proposal

What happened to the last location he proposed for this velodrome thing?

By Biker Babe

The Standard reports this morning that Hizzonah now wants to build yet another indoor water facility: to be included in the velodrome campus -- remember what happened with the last one?
Godfrey wants study for field house proposal
The article also states he wants the velodrome (er ... field house ...) between the Marriot and the Hampton Hotels ... um, aren't there already buildings and businesses there such as: oh yeah! The Lighthouse Lounge, Soul & Bones BBQ, D&R Spirits, HogDen, Bangkok Garden, La Casada, Coggins Larreau & Lythgoe, PC, Gandolfo's and the Federal Building ... just to name a few? And what happened to the last location he proposed for this velodrome thing? Or was there a dream location for it? I can't remember, since he never did the October promotion thing Patterson promised.

Editor's addendum: Looks like a fertile topic for morning discussion. folks. Who will be the first to chime in on this subject?

34 comments:

Dan S. said...

There's gotta be more to this story.

Why the new site? Does California also have a lien on Leshem's land between 20th and 21st, which was the previously announced site? Does the city, or some FOM speculator, have purchase options on the new site?

And of more urgency: Why has the city already chosen a consultant, before any money has been allocated for the study? How can the consultant possibly complete the study in only a month and a half? Sounds like the study is already underway, and Godfrey is asking the council to approve the funding retroactively, like he did for the ice tower and the welcome center and the river restoration, etc., etc., ...

RudiZink said...

Dan, I think we can assume that the State of California has a lien on ALL of Gadi's properties.

As for the other issues you raise... I agree that the info we have is paltry at best.

Nicely Done said...

LMAO!!! I told ya all months ago that you would not believe the location where the site of this was going to be.....drawings already exist....the study is the cart in front of th horse.

BlameJohnssonNotMe said...

Scroll down to Envision Utah/FNURE donation chart below and there is $20,690 that could be procured from Blain Johnson and Royal Eccles to help offset the costs of the next proposed boondoggle. The feasibility study total comes in at $38,000 so this only leaves $17,310 which would require just one good fundraiser. BOONDOGGLE COVERED, NO TAX PAYER MONEY INVOLVED!

Dan S. said...

BJNM: I was going to suggest asking John Gullo for the money, or better yet, the Ogden Community Foindation.

Dan S. said...

On a mostly unrelated matter: I was downtown on Saturday and saw absolutely no sign of the O-Town Trolley Express.

Dan S. said...

Oops. Ogden Community Foundation.

Curmudgeon said...

Wondered too what the implications of an indoor community pool and water park downtown would be for the pool up by the rodeo grounds. That to be phased out if the the bike-track-water-park-soccer-field omnibus field house gets built?

Moroni McConkie said...

Are we to infer that the Berthana must be demolished for this field house to happen?

Biker Babe said...

... ahem ...

Hizzonah will get rid of the Lighthouse one way or t'other

js
BB

Curmudgeon said...

BB:

You are so negative, such a naysayer. You have to learn to Think Big, Godfrey style. Can't you see what's happening here? The birth of a new Olympic sport, a new summer triathalon [bike racing/pool diving/archery]!

Curmudgeon said...

BB:

Damn. I meant of course bike racing/pool diving/ soccer.

It's so hard to keep the Mayor's Big Ideas straight. They come so fast and they change so often and they evaporate so frequently....

Nicley Done said...

Moroni...ding ding ding....you get a gold star on yer forehead....

Question is...why design something then go get a study after the fact?...opps...silly question

blackrulon said...

Dan S. You cannot be suggesting that the mayor cannot make the O-Town Trolley Express run on time?

Anonymous (NOT) said...

Looks like Mount Ogden Golf Course is a high adventure cycle-cross course....

Popular European sport comes to Ogden

Biker Babe said...

Curmy, Curmy ...

you left out the 10 (ten), count 'em: TEN tennis courts ...

js
BB

and I am NOT a naysayer, lol ;) ;)

Ogden Native said...

Headline "Standard-Examiner: Godfrey Wants Study for Field House Proposal"

Here's what I want for Ogden... the continuation of Ogden's great diverse community, without a culturally flat Harrisville-raised dumbass like Godfrey throwing a wrench into the works.

Screw Godfrey and the horse he rode on in, with special self-serving dopes who still support his tyrannical corporate welfare city administration.

Curmudgeon said...

BB:

Tennis too! Of course! Which means for a mere ten or twenty million Ogden's Omnibus Field House could become the birth place of the first Quadrathalon! And that has Olympic Sport written all over it!

Surely only naysayers could fail to support the Mayor's visionary plan.

Tennis said...

Archery is not high adventure.

Sir. Reginald Archery-Tennis said...

Godfrey is not high adventure.

blackrulon said...

Archery could be high adventure. Shooting at the bike riders as they circle the track. Extra points for hitting the rider wearing the Gadi Lesham disguise.

OneWhoKnows said...

Word has it that Godfrey and all his employed clones were taken to Maryland this past week for an all expense paid trip (on the city) for emergency prepardness. Must have cost the taxpayers a hundred grand or so and the experiences was probably priceless. More money well spent for the little visionary fulfilling his prophecy. What I want to know is when is he going to jail?

Screw the Lindquists said...

That's right, OnWhoKnows! In addition, the rotten Lindquist family has been flying eveybody from Ogden Government officials, to school board members (and who knows who else) back east on the Lindquist Private Jet to gather up local support for Boss Godfrey's latest boondoggle initiative.

If there's any family that needs to be firmly drummed out of the Ogden business community... it's the pro-Godfrey Lindquists... the family whove' made themselves millionaires by "stuffing" corpses.

Ed J said...

Billy P from Brewski's told me WSU's Graybeal is also making the trip with Godfrey? Who pays for him?

Curmudgeon said...

Ah.... if the folks are attending an emergency preparedness meeting, and the Lindquists are providing transport gratis for the Ogden folk attending, I'm hard put to see how that is a problem.

ozboy said...

There is an interesting blurb on the Standard web site about the Envision Ogden fiasco. It is a release of the investigation report that the Standard has Grama'd. It is short so I will just copy it here:

Latest News
Utah Attorney General's Investigation report on Envision Ogden
Standard-Examiner staff
Last updated Monday, November 15, 2010 - 4:48pm

Utah Attorney General's Investigation report on Envision Ogden

The following is a copy of a state Bureau of Investigation report into allegations by State Rep. Neil A. Hansen, D-Ogden, and Dan Schroeder, a local activist, alleging political corruption by Envision Ogden in the 2007 city council elections.

The report that was completed in 2009 was obtained by the Standard-Examiner from the Utah Attorney General's Office through a public records request. A story on the report will follow.

PDF: Investigation Report

Interesting that the original official complaint on all of this came from Scott Schwepke our intrepid Standard Ogden beat reporter!

AWM said...

Mayor Gadfly is asking for a feasibility study to be done by a company back east with 10 employees. Cost is approx $38K and he's requesting/hoping it's to be completed before the end of the year. Take the holidays out and you're looking @ best maybe 4 work weeks (20 days give or take). I know a little about data mining so to complete this in the 4-weeks the data must already be out there and the company apparently is not being asked to develop any additional metrics to measure/consider. The assigned employees (1-3?) just need to find it (the data)/distill it/propose the outcome(s). Hard to believe that Ogden City doesn't have ANYBODY in their Economic Development department with the educational background needed to complete this 4 week project considering the money some of them are pulling down. This whole thing just doesn't smell right no matter from what side it's approached.

AWM said...

Off the cuff...Back in the day I was a pretty hard core bike rider. Raced in many local club events and competed in a decent number of Triathlons over a number of years and knocked out more than a few century rides. Had a large number of cycling friends to boot. Not once in any of those years did anybody say "You know AWM, if only we would've had a velodrome to train in, we would be on the podium right now. I'm at a loss for the reasoning behind it. Velodromes are for a very specialized and small segment of riders. Does Ogden have an organized push from this group (if it even exists) to build it?

Curmudgeon said...

AWM:

Problem is, AWM, given the Adminsitration's past performance, would anyone believe a feasibility study done in-house? Remember Hizzonah's assuring both RAMP and the Council that donors were lined up six deep to donate megabucks to complete the Year Round Down Town Outdoor Popsicle... and none in fact were? Remember how he had to return the RAMP money when it developed he'd spent it on planning, which was not permitted under the terms of the grant? Remember all the confident announcements about Junction developments that never happened, the River Project, his gondola obsession, and so on and so on and so on?

His stumblefooted behavior in the past I suspect has pretty much sapped his credibility with RAMP and many others. To have any chance to be believed, the study would have to be done by an outside company, I'd think.

Curmudgeon said...

Just read the report, and in particular, the interview with donors and began to notice something strange. Look at the responses to Questions 8,9 and 10 for McKay Dee and the Bank and the Chamber rep and others. They use nearly the exact same language in response to the questions. Look e.g. at the responses to Q 9 "Did they at any time state they were a PAC?" And the answers all begin this way: "No it was not said. Nor was it asked due to the nature of the festivities and how and what was being promoted...."

Was there some kind of agreement among some the donors to use nearly identical language in answering these three questions? Would they all have used nearly identical language without prior consultations about what they would say? Just curious....

Curmudgeon said...

Link to the SE brief note which itself contains a link to a PDF of the Attorney General's report is here.

Marv said...

Curm

I noticed the same thing on the answers all being the same. The whole thing reeks of big cover up. I feel that justice will never prevail in any of these matters concerning the mayor and his frequent flaunting of what ever law he doesn't agree with or that gets in his way. He has the support of the prevailing power bases in the state and they all apparently are OK with his dishonest methods.

Biker Babe said...

AWM

Does Ogden have an organized push from this group (if it even exists) to build it?

I'd like to know which organized **group** pushed for pickleball courts ...

js,
BB

ND said...

From the SE today...
"Godfrey expects the company to finalize the 150,000-square-foot field house within a month"

So apparently they have already been working on the study eh?....sounds like the whole UDOT who gonna pay for what study all over again...

Any bets that the study shows this thing being "financially self-sustaining"? here's to another 20 mil taxpayers!....um and looks like SE reports all a go on the Hilton ...

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