Wednesday, February 03, 2010

Standard-Examiner: Buttars Firm On Cutting 12th Grade

One-time money and backfill funding will eventually catch up with the education system?!?!?!?

By Biker Babe

According to this morning's Standard-Examiner, State Senate Neanderthal Chris Buttars is still up to his Paleolithic Era tricks:
Buttars firm on cutting 12th grade (Live! Edition)
Buttars firm on cutting 12th grade (Digital Edition)
Yeah! Cut out 12th grade and no buses for high school:
On Monday, Buttars told a subcommittee that getting rid of 12th grade would save the state $102 million. Buttars also said he wants to cancel all busing for high school students to save $15 million. But Rep. Marie Poulson, a Cottonwood Heights Democrat, says senior year is when students mature and excel in academics, sports and activities. Poulson also says cutting 12th grade would create problems with college admissions.
More Legislative double-speak: One-time money and backfill funding will eventually catch up with the education system. WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN !?!?

The State of Utah is already on the very BOTTOM of the list as far as $$$ spent per student out of ALL 50 states. Why do you people always insist on cutting education funding first? Then complaining that the education $$$ budget is too small to support a whole GRADE? Just cut out 12th - cut out senior year - cut loose a bunch of kids who lack preparation and maturity to enter higher education and watch the ripple/domino effect of that.

What "backfill funding" and "one-time money" is going to fix that?


Curmudgeon said...

Sen. Buttars sees an educated electorate as a threat to all he holds dear. He's probably right about that. And so from his point of view, his "ditch 12th grade" plan makes perfect sense.

NOT a Utah Republican said...

I think Buttars already "cut" sixth grade from his own education, personally.

So sue me, Utah Republicans!

what will it cost us said...

Lets take back the release time for for Seminary. They can still go before or after school.

Why do school districts allow this time away from real learning. What does it cost each district per student?

They need more study time in school not another free ride.

AWM said...

Rumor has it that Butters once said 6th grade was the worst 4 years of his life

jethro said...

Yuz peeple dusnt no wat yur talkin bout. Hel I never did gone to 12 graid an it nevur hert me nun.

ozboy said...

Bribe? It ain't no stinkin bribe!

If you think this bozo Butters is a beauty, check this article out on KSL.

Just because a coal company gives the governor ten grand, then has a private pow wow with him, then gets their request to rape the land rushed through the state government doesn't mean they bribed him. Hell no, it was just a "convergence of events!"

"Convergence of events" is the new GOP double talk. Translation - "just shut the f____ up and leave ethical government to us anointed ones"

dropout said...

I quit going to school in the 7th grade. Smartest decision I ever made. As was going back later to attend 10 years of university.

But to force that path upon ALL students, in order to save a paltry sum of money?

What a dickhead.

Biker Babe said...

oz: He didn't know of the contribution? yah, Just like bill clinton didn't have sex with whatsername


ozboy said...


Well, Slick Willy actually was innocent. Whatsername had sex with the cigar and Willy had sex with the blue dress. Now I suppose if you really wanted to slander the saintly man you could make something out of those innocent acts. I would simply say they were convergence of events - to borrow from the new Utah GOP double speak.

Colonel Jessup said...

what will it cost us....
If the kids skip on released time who is going to teach them the morals that they will need when they grow up?

Curmudgeon said...

Well, Col., if young people have to depend on a couple of hours a week in a released time classroom to learn their morals, they're in big trouble. If any job can be said to be primarily, and fundamentally, the job of parents, that is certainly it. And even then, sometimes, despite mighty efforts, they don't succeed as kids are weaned away from parents' ethical standards to those of their friends on the streets.

Formal instruction --- particularly in history, literature, philosophy, biography --- can help, in developing an understanding of what constitutes honorable conduct under different circumstances and why it matters. But most of what young people think about right and wrong and what's moral and what's not they're going to pick up outside of a classroom, in their homes or from their friends. On those matters, a couple of hours released time a week to hear a religion teacher on the topic isn't going matter much, I'm afraid.

ozboy said...

Mr. Curmudgeon

You of course are correctomundo - as usual. I might add that morality and integrity are not only learned at home and from significant adults in a child's life, but it is learned at a very early age - 2 to 5 years old according to some shrinks.

Let's cut Buttars pay said...

Think of how much money we could save if we just quite paying for school all together.

Cut 12th grade what an a-hole!

blackrulon said...

Would the proposal to eliminate student busing apply to transporting athletic teams to games?

Jim Hutchins said...

On a school bus, students are forced to sit in pairs, facing the same direction, everyone (regardless of personal ability) going from the same destination, to the same destination.

At least half the time, the bus goes left.

Sounds like Socialism to me. Hooray, Sen. Buttars, for looking out for the morals of Utah Uth.

AWM said...

In 12th grade I was getting ready to take a humanities final ina class taught by a Dr. from Iran who had lost a number of close relatives under the Shah's rule. He came into class after everybody was seated carrying a fishbowl with one goldfish in it. He placed a towel across his desk and pulled the fish from the bowel and laid it on the towel. As the ladies howled their displeasure the guys postured with macho statements. After (what now seems like a very long time) I got up from the 3rd row..walked up and put the fish in the bowel and went and sat back down. While all this was happening the teacher never said a word. Finally he stood up and said (and I'm paraphrasing somewhat) "You live with what you tolerate. This fish is now alive because somebody ACTED instead of talked. Had more people ACTED then talked maybe my relatives would be alive today. Had more people ACTED than talked maybe many of the worlds great injustices might not have happened. He then told me I was going to get an A on the final and as he started to hand out the test he excused me from the rest of the period. I don't remember much at all from school, but I do remember the day in 12th when Dr. Razani said "You live with what you tolerate". I wonder how many crucial moments like that will be lost if Buttars gets his way

Curmudgeon said...


A nice tale, and well told. TY.

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